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damn eld. x creetards ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/daZe6xO.jpg) Good buck! š
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog
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Can't fathom giving a chit.
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022
Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?
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That said, not a thing wrong with a round because it's in vogue, it got there on it's HYPE.[/quote]FIXT
There will be another mo better almost identical in a few, like as soon as increasing sales start to plateau.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Itās the modern day 7mmRM.
āShe flies flat for about 3 hunnert, then raises up a bit.....ā
Iām liking the Grendel. Hahaha. Truth. Held dead on that sucker at 700 yds, too.
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I Dindo Nuffin
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Wow. Allegedly grown men fighting over the shape of a piece of brass. Blowhards are everywhere. Ask one about anything, and they will have a response. Hate them at will.
I donāt have a creed, probably wonāt. What I have already works for everything I need done so far. Maybe in the future, I could go 6 creed for a walking coyote rifle, but right now, its a 243 because I can find ammo cheap and most anywhere. What really blows my mind is the emotion grown men attach to a cartridge. Itās simply a tool, like nails in a nailgun. You can argue all day long about whether a bostitch is better than paslode or not, but nobody argues about the nails. IUse what works, and roll on. No need to waste energy on it. BS. 243s are sweet. 6mm Creed is about the only ammo on shelves out here. That and a random box of 44-40 or some other obscure schit.
āLife is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.ā
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The creeds are very nice rounds.
It aināt just the brass, itās the whole package.
āLife is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.ā
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The creeds are very nice rounds.
It aināt just the brass, itās the whole package. You're going to give them a heart attack!
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022
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Itās the Ethel Merman of cartridges. ![[Linked Image from cdn.someecards.com]](https://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1336961513082_5518866.png)
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^^^^^^^ That's what is odd to me, that anyone would think anyone thinks that.
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022
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Wow. Allegedly grown men fighting over the shape of a piece of brass. Blowhards are everywhere. Ask one about anything, and they will have a response. Hate them at will.
I donāt have a creed, probably wonāt. What I have already works for everything I need done so far. Maybe in the future, I could go 6 creed for a walking coyote rifle, but right now, its a 243 because I can find ammo cheap and most anywhere. What really blows my mind is the emotion grown men attach to a cartridge. Itās simply a tool, like nails in a nailgun. You can argue all day long about whether a bostitch is better than paslode or not, but nobody argues about the nails. IUse what works, and roll on. No need to waste energy on it. BS. 243s are sweet. I like mine, even with its non sexy shoulder, too short throat, and other long list of deficiencies. The way it kills, I sometimes wonder how good it could be if it only had a 30 degree shoulder.š May try the creed version just to see. Maybe not, too. Seems like two peas in a pod, unless you gotta have dem long heavy boolits to kill stuff way out there. Around here, thatās a little pointless, at least for hunting. 80 to 95 grains kills deer like lightning, and stuff down to 55 grs. knocks the snot out of anything smaller. At least out to 300 or so, which is as long as it gets here unless you work to have more. Even then, I have watched my uncle kill a buck with one shot at 500, using 100 grain Winchester Power Point ammo. Seems being able to shoot makes up for a lot. The Creeds check a lot of boxes, especially for a guy starting out and not planning to load his own. For a lot of us who already have stuff we like, the Creeds are likely more of the same. Nothing to get excited about, either way.
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My furthest deer kill was ranged right at 400 yds.......6mmBR, 105 amax, double lunged, golf ball sized exit......2850 mv.
No flies on a good 6mm bullet placed thru vitals.
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Damn old .243, poor fella went all of 10 feet[downhill]. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/s71PUQDl.jpg)
FJB & FJT
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My furthest deer kill was ranged right at 400 yds.......6mmBR, 105 amax, double lunged, golf ball sized exit......2850 mv.
No flies on a good 6mm bullet placed thru vitals. Is the 6CM part of the flat brim fairy boot snowflake brigade?
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Like the 223 the 6.5 creed is very popular not quite as much as the 223 but getting close. I am looking forward to the day that I can find piles of once fired 6.5 Creedmoor brass laying in the dirt waiting for me to pickup for no other reason than to enhance my asset holdings. One man's trash is another's treasure. I like free brass I don't care what the head stamp is I'll use it or trade it for something I need. Magnum Bob
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
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6.5 CM is probably one of the easiest cartridges to load for. All you need is a 4350 powder donāt care which one and pick a bullet donāt care which one and it will shoot.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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You really should get one of em 6.5 Creedmucks. Itās so flat shooting gravity doesnāt even effect it. Itās witchcraft I think.
If you had one of them 6.5 things and a .280 you would be king of the mountain. You would be set for gophers to Tyrannosaurus Rex. Everyone knows how much better the .280 is than the 270 or 30-06 š
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Any caliber bullet and corresponding case can be designed similarly to optimize performance. It isn't magic but the art of matching bullet design to casing design to rifle design. The future will likely see many new cartridges/bullets/rifles designed by better thinking.
That's what we do as a culture. That's what has Made America Great. We never stop improving. I'm looking forward to the next improved cartridge and rifle. Do we need it? Maybe not, but it is our very nature to always strive for something better. When we stop doing so we will no longer be Great.
God Bless America
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Always have wondered, what would the .243 be, with a sharper shoulder, longer neck, and rifles built for it? Twist and barrel length for the bullet/load the user wants to use, throat for same. Mag box to match, maybe even a medium length action if needed for feeding constraints. Hell, say 5-10 grains more powder capacity, and even heavier, longer bullets for those who wish to use them. A 120 grain 6 mm would have an ungodly BC and cheat wind like a sumbitch. Be the damn wonder cartridge of the century...š
Of course, I probably described an existing cartridge I am not loony enough to know about, seems there is nothing new under the sun. Creeds are a standard mousetrap made slightly better to work within the existing constraints, and maybe further limited by arbitrary rules for the games they were developed to be used in. I am a hunter and shooter, not a competitor, so my mind runs more to changing the constraints rather than fitting a cartridge to the ones I have. And too, I am not enthused about trading velocity for BC, when I could build something that gives me both.
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I havent boughten in yet. Im invested already in 308 win and now 270 win and 30-06. Ive got an old Sako fullstock 243 win ive never shot besides those. Really i cant find a need for the Creed in that it does anythingbbetter than what im already geared up for. That cpuld change but ill need to sell something off before im buying in.
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Always have wondered, what would the .243 be, with a sharper shoulder, longer neck, and rifles built for it? Twist and barrel length for the bullet/load the user wants to use, throat for same. Mag box to match, maybe even a medium length action if needed for feeding constraints. Hell, say 5-10 grains more powder capacity, and even heavier, longer bullets for those who wish to use them. A 120 grain 6 mm would have an ungodly BC and cheat wind like a sumbitch. Be the damn wonder cartridge of the century...š
Of course, I probably described an existing cartridge I am not loony enough to know about, seems there is nothing new under the sun. Creeds are a standard mousetrap made slightly better to work within the existing constraints, and maybe further limited by arbitrary rules for the games they were developed to be used in. I am a hunter and shooter, not a competitor, so my mind runs more to changing the constraints rather than fitting a cartridge to the ones I have. And too, I am not enthused about trading velocity for BC, when I could build something that gives me both. Not the same bolt face, but without looking up 6mm wildcats, you've about described 6mmPRC performance. And with the highest BC bullets the cartridge really could use a medium action. Bigger badder 6mm's exist, but there ain't no free lunch. Barrel life quickly becomes one of the draw backs.
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