Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire I'm sick and tired of hearing about the 30-06

A 168 gr TSX. This and many others fell out of an FN Supreme 30-06.

I don't currently own an '06, but only because I never hunt anything that weighs more than a few hundred pounds. My best best friend has a Creedmore. I just have to accept that he was born that way and it is not a choice.

Wake me up when someone finds a better big game hunting caliber than 300 Win Mag.

And no, it's not 6.5 gaymore

You shot a lot of wood in Africa.

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This thread has been almost as good as the meme time thread!

And thanks to all the 30-06 critics I have finally realized what a cruddy, run down, outdated cartridge it is.
Hell, its basically the 12ga of rifle cartridges.... definitely on borrowed time.





Thats sarcasm guys.
Just keep in mind - there's a reason that all those other good cartridges still get measured against the 30-06.

They need to make a .270-06.

That'd be the gayest cartridge EVER.

The 270 Win is not "gay". It's a badass son of the '06.
But for some reason, Judy Garland types have declared it the path over the yellow brick road.

308 is the weaker fat sister of a 30-06.

I did a test the other day with a 22-250 and a 30-06. 3/8" thick 4140 steel plate at 30 yards. The 22-250 shot through and the 30-06 didn't. This sort of duplicates a test that P.O. Ackley wrote about in his book. When someone I know buys a creedmoor I'm hoping to try that on the plate. Any guesses what will happen? I have no idea if one would shoot through or not.

Now does that mean the 22-250 would stop a charging grizzly bear better than the 30-06?

My next 06 will be an 1895, when ever I find one. (Current production)

Yes . . . .I've argued this for years. I have a buddy who went on a grizzly hunt, his guide used a 243 with 75 gr ballistic tips for his guide gun. The guide swore it produced the quickest kills at short range as anything he'd ever seen.

Could be worse. I was told just yesterday that the best commercial ammo for a 243 to shoot coyotes out to 500 yards is something with 120 grain bullets.

I asked for an example of such a loading. (line in the water)

Was told I need to handload and provided an article.

Article was talking 120's for the 25-06

I asked for more clarity (I like to fish from time to time)

Was told his dad handloads 120 partitions for his 243 for him as he's a Coues hunter from way back. A light 243 is better than some heavier round.

I said Nosler doesn't make a 120 Partition in .243. The heaviest I'm aware of are 115 bergers/DTACs (more line in the water)

He said - well, it must be the grains of powder then.

He went to link another article - same song/verse - no 120 grain bullet in .243


This is some dude in his 40's - they breed and stay dumb. It's nuts.

Cmon now Teal. You were confusing him with facts again. Besides don’t we always use the same grains of powder as the bullet weighs? Did he squirm when ya hooked him. Edk

Nope. He just quit.

Thanks for posting that.

Too bad they didn't invent the 6.5 Creedmoor 115 years ago. Today's 30-06 could have been their improvement. Lengthen the case slightly to hold more powder and expand the bore from 6.5mm to 7.62mm to allow more powerful bullets. Brilliant idea!

No doubt some would complain about the extra 0.25 pound the rifle might weigh, especially fat old guys 50 pounds overweight.

I have a clanger range that goes out to 700 yards, with a dozen cobbled up but heavy "sculptures" hung to swing freely. You really notice the differences in impact as bore size goes up. .30-06 and 8mm bore sizes just knock the hell out of the targets, you can hear the impact through the earmuffs and see the target swing with the big bores. A hit with the 168 from the .308 is fairly respectable too. As the caliber gets smaller though you need somebody to spot for you. A hit with a 7mm 160 gr from a 7x57 is just borderline. The impact at 600 of the 140gr Swede or Creed is pretty much a "tink" sound and the movement of the 60 pound steel is kind of a "shiver". A friends 5.56 green tip hit is undetectable without a spotting scope. Don't misunderstand me, I wouldn't want to be exposed to any of them. But clearly, The Laws of Physics on display.

I love reading and using the 30/06....and any of it's derivatives.
I am always amazed how it could not be improved upon after all these years.
Things aren't that mysterious, it works
C'mon, a '06 in a classy, traditional mountain rifle is as good as it gets.

I'm sure those who like and use the .22-06, .25-06, .270 Win, .280 Rem, and .35 Whelen wouldn't be in full agreement.

Anyhow, I'm sick of hearing about it so please don't torture me further.

Penetration on steel plates is directly proportional to velocity so it's no surprise that a .22-250 would penetrate and the .30-06 wouldn't.

A 6.5 Creedmoor is about the same velocity as a .30-06 so it probably wouldn't penetrate.