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"Colleton County Coroner Richard Harvey later identified the victims as 9-year-old Lauren Drawdy and 30-year-old Kim Drawdy. It was the last day of deer hunting season." Reminds me of an article I read several years ago. Southern state, KY or TN I think, DNR did a study of Spring Turkey shootings to see why they occurred. They expected to learn it was Newbies getting over excited. Turned out, the majority of shooting "accidents" were done by local veteran hunters on the last couple days of season. The primary excuse was they got too worked up, embarrassed to go back to town and admit to their buddies they failed to fill their turkey tag for the season.
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Prior to the blaze orange requirement in Colorado in the early 70’s, deer and elk hunters were routinely shooting each other to the tune of 3 or 4 a year.
It is true that the majority—but not all—were nonresidents. Strangers in a strange land, not familiar with the critters, the habitat or terrain, throw in a strong desire to kill a critter and it seems some people “see” things that are not really there.
The final straw that prompted the blaze orange requirement was when two kids got shot off of motorcycles near Gunnison in 1969. The hunter thought they were deer. Back then people were not charged with murder. Distraught, the California hunter committed suicide a few years later.
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I take my blaze orange off when dressing a critter, and hang it in a tree next to the dead animal, and keep my hat on.
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Now, we can understand why Colorado has the blaze orange viewable from 360 degrees on the hat. This was truly tragic.
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This happened November 9th and there has been zero information from the authorities, despite a homicide charge being filed. Today the Colorado Sun published an article with a little more information. Here is the defense attorney's account: The hunting party — which Jones said was “three or four” hunters — had radios and was working together to track the wounded elk. Watkins saw the animal through thick trees, Jones said. “He saw the antlers. He saw the brown. He saw the animal was down in the woods,” Jones said. “The problem was that his buddy had taken off his orange and was kneeling next to the downed animal. (Watkins) saw that the animal was about to get up and he fired. That’s what caused his buddy’s death.” https://coloradosun.com/2020/12/04/...nal-charges-in-colorado-death-of-hunter/Hell of a thing. o.m.g
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Shooter was arrested in JulyI think this happened in South Carolina and not Tennessee.
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I forgot about that one....
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This happened in northern MN and I met the shooter. The snow was pretty deep and a fellow in orange was bent over dressing the deer and the fellow I met thought it was a redfox laying on the snow( pelts were worth a lot back then) and he shot thinking he was shooting a fox. He nearly killed the guy but got him help and he lived. The shooter quit hunting.
I had my tent set up on his girlfriends farm and was running a trapline out of there.
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After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Happens about every two to three years, it seems, in the Ocala National Forest....
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The final straw that prompted the blaze orange requirement was when two kids got shot off of motorcycles near Gunnison in 1969. The hunter thought they were deer. Back then people were not charged with murder. Distraught, the California hunter committed suicide a few years later.
That incident still comes up in conversations from time to time. I've heard variations of the details but one thing that never changes is how shocking the incident was.
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A friend of mine who happens to be a police officer told me that many hunting "accidents" are in fact intentional homicides. Done right almost a perfect crime. I lost a cousin back in 1974, due to that... Tony was 24 and had a new born son... it was mistaken Identity tho,, was wearing blaze orange when gutting a deer he took... shot just range out of the woods.. Tony was gutting a deer in the middle of a field.. another guy named Tony was messing around with someone's wife, and from a distance resembled my cousin Tony... The shooter was later found and arrested and convicted... that happened on Thanksgiving Day 1974....
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I too, over the years, think many are indeed homicides. Things like mistaking the victim for a gray squirrel or turkey are just way too much of a stretch.
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ya that one is right up the road. my bet is a trespasser he was giving schit to. theres some crazy mf'ers out that way.
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I lived one of these first hand when I was 16. Heard the shot and went to see what they got and ended up saving a mans life. Still remember it like it was yesterday, life changing for all involved. Carelessness happens so quick and there is no taking it back.
I feel for all involved. Every time I see a story like this, I cringe, having seen the awful cost. My folks would not let me hunt any more that year and the following year I could only go by myself or with my older brother.
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A year or two before Nebraska implemented the mandatory hunter orange rules, a kid I went to high school with, was sitting on top of a haystack watching a meadow. A hunter, from the area and someone who should have known better, thought he looked just like a coyote sitting up there. Shot him thru the head.
Shortly after that, another guy, in the same area got his leg shot off by a hunter in his own hunting party that thought he looked like a deer.
I have stopped hunting deer during the rifle season just for this reason, even on my own land.
“My horn is full and my pouch is stocked with ball and patch. There is a new, sharp flint in my lock and my rifle and I are ready. It is sighted true and my eyes can still aim.”
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A few years back in CO a muzzleloader hunter shot a female bowhunter in the head. All he could see was her head, said he thought it was a squirrel.
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Latest info on the Kremmling shooting. Sorry, I can't seem to make it into a link: https://coloradosun.com/2020/12/04/intentional-discharge-of-an-aimed-firearm-leads-to-rare-criminal-charges-in-colorado-death-of-hunter/?vgo_ee=2b5MXSodDN%2BGitqZ3SC2Ib35hO7C%2FF3J%2FgQB9Uu3XAY%3D Here's some info on hunting accidents in Colorado: https://cpw.state.co.us/learn/Pages/HE-Safe-Hunting.aspx
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That information gives all the credit for the reduction in accidents to Hunter Education but it doesn't mention the other thing that was mandated in 1970 which was hunter orange during the firearms seasons. Kind of hard to separate the two.
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