Dont know about boring but I was just at Cabela's.
4 boxes of 30-06 on the shelf, Hornady Outfitter.
42.99 a box of 20.
That my friends is what will fuel a resurgence of reloaders in this country. Lord help you if you like to shoot in volume, have a Wby, and don't reload....
You have a wby and don't reload? Damn, it's because I bought a wby in the 90's that I started loading ammo. I got a hell of a good deal on a nice 300wby, but had no idea what wby ammo cost. Trust me, the reloading equipment was far less money. You must be a doctor or some such schidt...
Some of us didn't take a wtby to reload, we knew what could always happen, and the positives of reloading. Heck some of us started well before out of high school and with a lee loader set and a mallet and are still moving right along.
Though eventually did get a few rounds in wtby chambers.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
It's cousins (270, 280, 308 etc) are never branded boring so why the 30/06?
because of whats ruining Trump. Media.
06 is just fine.
Although I only own a few in Garands and have only shot pigs with it. Its still just fine.
In fact I got excited this year to see a client bring a 308 on a moose hunt. I was far more impressed with his rounds impacts on moose than the latter, and latter had 338 win mag and had as good if not better hits than the 308 client.
Of course I once again came to the conclusion that Partitions are not reliable to me at all. While Barnes continue to be.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
I'm curious. I know this place bashes the 30-06. Does it happen much on other boards?
Most of the 30-06 bashing, and 270 bashing as well, reminds me of high school. It was cool to bash authority, your parents music, old people generally, etc. because teen boys want to be accepted by their peers. Like Chester here.
It's cousins (270, 280, 308 etc) are never branded boring so why the 30/06?
because of whats ruining Trump. Media.
06 is just fine.
Although I only own a few in Garands and have only shot pigs with it. Its still just fine.
In fact I got excited this year to see a client bring a 308 on a moose hunt. I was far more impressed with his rounds impacts on moose than the latter, and latter had 338 win mag and had as good if not better hits than the 308 client.
Of course I once again came to the conclusion that Partitions are not reliable to me at all. While Barnes continue to be.
What happened with a Partition on this particular hunt? Care to share the details?
It's boring to a hobbyist or loony who likes to experiment and has the means to do so. To a guy who wants a serious, dependable killing tool he can rely upon to keep his freezer stocked with meat, boring is good. He's not interested in being entertained.
It's boring to a hobbyist or loony who likes to experiment and has the means to do so. To a guy who wants a serious, dependable killing tool he can rely upon to keep his freezer stocked with meat, boring is good. He's not interested in being entertained.
Name a bottlenecked centerfire cartridge, introduced since 1930, and larger than .20 caliber that might fail substantially in that regard?
It's boring to a hobbyist or loony who likes to experiment and has the means to do so. To a guy who wants a serious, dependable killing tool he can rely upon to keep his freezer stocked with meat, boring is good. He's not interested in being entertained.
Name a bottlenecked centerfire cartridge, introduced since 1930, and larger than .20 caliber that might fail substantially in that regard?
Hmm. 22 TCM and 5.7x28 come to mind. They would likely work, but I doubt a majority would consider them "a serious, dependable killing tool" for hunting what a guy would use a 30-06 for.
It's cousins (270, 280, 308 etc) are never branded boring so why the 30/06?
because of whats ruining Trump. Media.
06 is just fine.
Although I only own a few in Garands and have only shot pigs with it. Its still just fine.
In fact I got excited this year to see a client bring a 308 on a moose hunt. I was far more impressed with his rounds impacts on moose than the latter, and latter had 338 win mag and had as good if not better hits than the 308 client.
Of course I once again came to the conclusion that Partitions are not reliable to me at all. While Barnes continue to be.
What happened with a Partition on this particular hunt? Care to share the details?
Ok. 308 Win. 168 Barnes TTSX. Shots around 125 yards or so. Low through heart and leg meat. Pass through. Moose don't realize they are dead. We decide to take another shot. Same distance basically. Enters rear of lungs, exits through shoulder meat and part of scapula. Pass through. Moose still not aware of death. Third shot enters shoulder meat, exits center of neck, pass through bang flop.
Move onward. 338 Win Mag. 250 partition. Pretty slow. Range just under 100 yards. First shot broadside centers both lungs, just at the crease of the leg. Caught a hair of shoulder meat, no bone other than rib. Moose is sick. But moves off a bit. Still standing so lets do it again. This hit is about 5 inches from first, basically same perfect placement. No exit on either shot. In fact neither of the 250s even made it to ding the inside of the ribs on the off side. Guessing they were both in the off side lungs somewhere. Normally I dig but lets just say it was a super long day and even longer night working on getting him back to camp which was complete by about 9am the next morning. I didn't dig.
JB told me once on an issue with NP on small whitetail and 300 mag that the 180 was NOT a mag bullet, but the 200 was. I'd be impressed with that bullet. But Barnes was around and figuring out how to shoot them and then along came the TSX and the TTSX and between them and a few bergers here and there I'm good. Not a nosler in the household anymore other than some old 6mm partitions been here for years.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
It's cousins (270, 280, 308 etc) are never branded boring so why the 30/06?
because of whats ruining Trump. Media.
06 is just fine.
Although I only own a few in Garands and have only shot pigs with it. Its still just fine.
In fact I got excited this year to see a client bring a 308 on a moose hunt. I was far more impressed with his rounds impacts on moose than the latter, and latter had 338 win mag and had as good if not better hits than the 308 client.
Of course I once again came to the conclusion that Partitions are not reliable to me at all. While Barnes continue to be.
What happened with a Partition on this particular hunt? Care to share the details?
Ok. 308 Win. 168 Barnes TTSX. Shots around 125 yards or so. Low through heart and leg meat. Pass through. Moose don't realize they are dead. We decide to take another shot. Same distance basically. Enters rear of lungs, exits through shoulder meat and part of scapula. Pass through. Moose still not aware of death. Third shot enters shoulder meat, exits center of neck, pass through bang flop.
Move onward. 338 Win Mag. 250 partition. Pretty slow. Range just under 100 yards. First shot broadside centers both lungs, just at the crease of the leg. Caught a hair of shoulder meat, no bone other than rib. Moose is sick. But moves off a bit. Still standing so lets do it again. This hit is about 5 inches from first, basically same perfect placement. No exit on either shot. In fact neither of the 250s even made it to ding the inside of the ribs on the off side. Guessing they were both in the off side lungs somewhere. Normally I dig but lets just say it was a super long day and even longer night working on getting him back to camp which was complete by about 9am the next morning. I didn't dig.
JB told me once on an issue with NP on small whitetail and 300 mag that the 180 was NOT a mag bullet, but the 200 was. I'd be impressed with that bullet. But Barnes was around and figuring out how to shoot them and then along came the TSX and the TTSX and between them and a few bergers here and there I'm good. Not a nosler in the household anymore other than some old 6mm partitions been here for years.
Wow. I'm just as surprised that all three Barnes exited as I am that neither Partition did. Thanks for typing that up!
Some years ago during a rodeo with a big muley buck, my brother shot him in the ass as he was hobbling away at about 400 yards with a 200 gr Partition out of a 300 SAUM. When I was gutting that buck, I discovered that the Partition didn't make it out of the guts, so then we started measuring and digging. It penetrated 14-15" tops. Not what I would have expected.
It's boring to a hobbyist or loony who likes to experiment and has the means to do so. To a guy who wants a serious, dependable killing tool he can rely upon to keep his freezer stocked with meat, boring is good. He's not interested in being entertained.
Name a bottlenecked centerfire cartridge, introduced since 1930, and larger than .20 caliber that might fail substantially in that regard?
Not many, and that's the point. Part of the hobby is arguing minutia.
In the end, boringness is subjective and determined by application. A 30-06 doesn't make for a very good 13-stripe ground squirrel rifle. But it might prove entertaining!
It's cousins (270, 280, 308 etc) are never branded boring so why the 30/06?
because of whats ruining Trump. Media.
06 is just fine.
Although I only own a few in Garands and have only shot pigs with it. Its still just fine.
In fact I got excited this year to see a client bring a 308 on a moose hunt. I was far more impressed with his rounds impacts on moose than the latter, and latter had 338 win mag and had as good if not better hits than the 308 client.
Of course I once again came to the conclusion that Partitions are not reliable to me at all. While Barnes continue to be.
What happened with a Partition on this particular hunt? Care to share the details?
Ok. 308 Win. 168 Barnes TTSX. Shots around 125 yards or so. Low through heart and leg meat. Pass through. Moose don't realize they are dead. We decide to take another shot. Same distance basically. Enters rear of lungs, exits through shoulder meat and part of scapula. Pass through. Moose still not aware of death. Third shot enters shoulder meat, exits center of neck, pass through bang flop.
Move onward. 338 Win Mag. 250 partition. Pretty slow. Range just under 100 yards. First shot broadside centers both lungs, just at the crease of the leg. Caught a hair of shoulder meat, no bone other than rib. Moose is sick. But moves off a bit. Still standing so lets do it again. This hit is about 5 inches from first, basically same perfect placement. No exit on either shot. In fact neither of the 250s even made it to ding the inside of the ribs on the off side. Guessing they were both in the off side lungs somewhere. Normally I dig but lets just say it was a super long day and even longer night working on getting him back to camp which was complete by about 9am the next morning. I didn't dig.
JB told me once on an issue with NP on small whitetail and 300 mag that the 180 was NOT a mag bullet, but the 200 was. I'd be impressed with that bullet. But Barnes was around and figuring out how to shoot them and then along came the TSX and the TTSX and between them and a few bergers here and there I'm good. Not a nosler in the household anymore other than some old 6mm partitions been here for years.
I have never witnessed a partition penetrate as well as a TTSX or TSX
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
I bought my son a 30-06 when he turned 14 and loaded it with110 grain bullets. Well today I bought my first 30-06. Figured I'd stimulate the economy with a new Kimber Montana.
Ok. 308 Win. 168 Barnes TTSX. Shots around 125 yards or so. Low through heart and leg meat. Pass through. Moose don't realize they are dead. We decide to take another shot. Same distance basically. Enters rear of lungs, exits through shoulder meat and part of scapula. Pass through. Moose still not aware of death. Third shot enters shoulder meat, exits center of neck, pass through bang flop.
Move onward. 338 Win Mag. 250 partition. Pretty slow. Range just under 100 yards. First shot broadside centers both lungs, just at the crease of the leg. Caught a hair of shoulder meat, no bone other than rib. Moose is sick. But moves off a bit. Still standing so lets do it again. This hit is about 5 inches from first, basically same perfect placement. No exit on either shot. In fact neither of the 250s even made it to ding the inside of the ribs on the off side. Guessing they were both in the off side lungs somewhere. Normally I dig but lets just say it was a super long day and even longer night working on getting him back to camp which was complete by about 9am the next morning. I didn't dig.
Don't you think this is comparing oranges to apples? 168 grain .308 Barnes to 250 grain .338 Partition?
I've shot a lot of big game with the 180 grain .308 caliber Partition. Never had a failure or problem. Only recovered one bullet. All 1-shot kills except for one caribou that I flinched on.
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