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But it wasn’t from the water!

It’s not a healthcare workers job to make patients conform to their will. Just because you’re a nurse doesn’t give you the power to force your beliefs onto the patients. I don’t get the flu shot but that doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t administer it to someone that desires it.

Just because your circumcision was botched doesn’t mean that it should be illegal or that every other young boy will become a eunuch like you.

I prefer the shower for that.

I didnt say anything about getting patients to
conform to the personal will of the health
worker...but if the worker don't trust the Vax
for themselves why do they trust it for the
health and wellbeing of their patients?

Now it's funny that you belong to a christian
faith that has God botherers all over the globe
imposing their will by trying to convert people
to their beliefs.

Patients have free will to decide for themselves based upon the information they have just as healthcare workers have the ability to choose for themselves.

Just because a nurse or doctor doesn’t “trust” a vaccine does NOT mean that the vaccine is unsafe.

So what is the mistrust of the Vax
by medical practioners based on?

It could be based on many things. Individual healthcare workers don’t get to play God by making your choices for you. The entire healthcare system would cease to exist if every nurse or doctor could force their personal agenda onto the patient. Patients can refuse care AMA, patients can refuse vaccines AMA. Healthcare workers aren’t allowed to inject you against your will no matter how beneficial they believe the injection is.

A lack of data.

Which is a LOT different than mistrust based on data. Especially peer reviewed data.

There are legitimate reasons vaccine trials usually last a long time.

IMO, speed > safety was the order of the day with the currently available vaccines. It doesn't mean they're dangerous, but there's really no data demonstrating that they are NOT dangerous. It would take years to reasonably demonstrate CDC standards of safety.

Yeah, I think we are off track and into assisted dying territory. Where it's legal the practicioner still has the right to refuse treatment I believe.

I didnt ask about forced Vax injections
with a believed to be beneficial vax..
I asked why would a health worker - with
the well being of the patient in mind-
inject a patient with a Vax they don't
trust to take themselves.

And don't bring up the freewill argument
when you belong to a hypocritical God
bothering faith that has tried its best to stop
people having freewill in medical procedures.

I answered the question, but it obviously wasn't what you wanted to hear......

Another mind reader that seems to know.
what others don't want to hear.. LoL.

Star: I'm sure you've thought of this but there is a pretty good argument that getting vaccinated and having an abortion is not the same in that there is a person involved that hasn't given consent.

Christians tell me those terminated babies go
straight into the arms of Jesus.
So what's wrong with skipping a long life on earth
for the eternal bliss of heaven... isnt that what those
of the faith are ultimately aiming for?

Is there any real Christian that would not
trade their current temporal existence on earth
for a place in heaven right at this moment.?

Seems they prefer to be here and bitch/whine
about all the evil in the world while trying to
impose their beliefs and hypocritical standards
on others.... worse still they would rather
not have those babies in the arms of Jesus, but
have them here to suffer this 'terrible' world of
trial and tribulation... coz miserable people
like company to share their misery with... 😂

Star: Putting Christianity and for that matter any religion aside. An atheist can be a very moral person in that he believes in civil and human rights. So again how does administering a vaccine to an informed consenting adult equate to your example wherein you compared administering a possibly dangerous vaccine to administering an abortion.

Yup, stick that swab down into her lungs.

Would you still work in an abortion clinic
doing the procedure if you didn't believe in
abortion?
And if you didn't trust Vax would you still inject
it into patients you had a duty of care to?

Maybe your values depend on how the events
of another's life affect you personally, ie;
I reasonably gather you being LE feel more
for cops that met tragedy than ordinary
members of the public? ... And maybe ones
pregnant daughter having an abortion
Or a questionable Vax would concern you
more than a friends daughter having same.

Of course there are also people who would
not be willing to do to others that they would
not like being done to themselves... be it Vax,
abortion or anything else... but those
kinds are exceedingly rare it seems.



There a number of christians here that
would disagree... Some think everything
good only comes from Jesus.

Because murder is always wrong.

According to the book your God orchestrated the
evil in this world by putting that satan character
in charge.... Also put a crafty snake in the garden
up against naive humans to ensure mans Fall.

Lucifer didn't even put his hand up for the job
on earth,..he was forced into the role at God's will.
IF given choice he would have stayed in heaven.