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https://safariclub.org/joe-biden-voices-support-for-banning-the-import-of-hunting-trophies/Not just Africa. Joe Biden Voices Support for Banning the Import of Hunting Trophies This past weekend, former Vice President Joe Biden hosted a virtual town hall in Illinois while campaigning for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination. During the event he went on record as being opposed to the importation of animals hunted legally outside the United States. Such a ban is intended solely to stop outdoorsmen and women from hunting abroad, a longtime goal of the uninformed anti-hunting groups to whom Joe Biden is politically pandering. Similar to legislation like the federal CECIL Act or the Iconic African Species Protection Act in California that threaten hunters ’rights, an import ban would not only fail to increase protections on wildlife species in Africa and elsewhere, it would actively impede scientifically-backed conservation strategies managed by range states and funded primarily by hunting dollars spent in range countries. Someone like Pete Fick, who is a wildlife guide in Zimbabwe’s Bubye Wildlife Conservancy, would have a lot to teach the former Vice President. Fick and conservationists like him are adamant that “killing some animals so the rest of them can live is an absolute necessity out here.” By allowing hunting inside the conservancy, Bubye has been able to increase their resources on hand to push back against efforts by those looking to develop wildlife habitat into agricultural spaces, as well as hire more full-time anti-poaching patrols inside the area. In fact, the park management authorities cover 80% of the Conservancy’s $2.5 million annual maintenance costs with hunting dollars. Safari Club International (SCI) CEO W. Laird Hamberlin responded to Joe Biden’s statement, saying “If Joe Biden truly cared about international wildlife, he would spend less time falsely claiming he was a sponsor of the Endangered Species Act and more time studying the abundance of evidence from the scientific community that shows hunting is a critical component of many countries’ successful wildlife conservation programs. Many of the people who oppose our mission at SCI are quick to accost others for not believing in science when it comes to climate change, yet seem to forget that same talking point when confronted with science that supports conservation through sustainable use. Maybe Joe thinks no one is paying attention because of our national crisis…” Hamberlin continued “but rest assured that SCI is watching and ready as ever to fight for our people’s right to hunt. While we may be practicing social distancing, I’d still like to invite the former Vice President’s campaign to engage with us here at Safari Club International so that we can work together to make the world a better place for humans and wildlife to healthily coexist.
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Liberal democrats don't care about reality or facts why do you expect biden to?
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Just get some obscure Federal judge in Podunkville to issue an injunction against anything like that he pulls, just like the Left did with Trump.
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Liberal democrats don't care about reality or facts why do you expect biden to? Don’t confuse’em with the facts. Don’t let them know how hunting actually saves game, how money spent by hunters supports habitat and management costs. DF
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With this liberal lunacy importing trophies is the least of our worries.
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Don’t confuse’em with the facts.
Don’t let them know how hunting actually saves game, how money spent by hunters supports habitat and management costs.
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Many of them know that, but it doesn't fit their dogma, and simply refuse to let hunter driven conservation (which is still the bulk of conservation efforts around the world) interfere with their politically correct philosophy.
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What will Wayne do if we don't pay him to hunt anymore ?
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The methods used by anti-hunters get pretty extreme and totally senseless. The original plan with importing wolves was to reduce big game numbers to such a low level that hunting would have to be stopped. Those are their own words, not mine.
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I would not put much stock into what a politician says on the campaign trail, especially Biden. Most of the questions asked were planted, and a politician will say what is needed to please the audience.
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The implication is where the game is legal in the Country of it's origin but listed as endangered by the USFW or CITIES. This rule is still in effect except for the de-listing on Ivory importations in special cases and Lions from some areas.
The original statement got lost in all the partial and miss-quotes afterward.
Don't get me wrong I tried to become a game guard in Kenya when I was a teenager (didn't pan out, wrong color) and I have seen first hand how important hunting is to conservation in Africa. I believe it is the only thing that will preserve parts of African wildlife outside the parks. Do I need to import a Black face Impala, nope.
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this is all animal rights BS and has nothing whatever to do with science or game management. It's pure 'Bambi is my cousin' crap.
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Just wait until Biden/Harris ban ALL hunting and use of firearms on ALL Federal lands and waterways.
The communist anti-guns cabal and the PETA Pimps have been advocating that for a long time.
After all, if you can't hunt, why do you need those evil guns? Self defense? No, just call 9-1-1.
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What will Wayne do if we don't pay him to hunt anymore ? Go to the house, hopefully. DF
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Just get some obscure Federal judge in Podunkville to issue an injunction against anything like that he pulls, just like the Left did with Trump. Exactly. Judge shop in the good courts.
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Another solution is to take advantage of a porous southern border to get the stuff in. If millions of people can cross, how hard would it be for one of them to tote a zebra rug?
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You've heard nothing yet. Just wait until one of the pair, attempts the "State of the Nation" address in a few months.
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They would kill every animal if it gave them more power.
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Just wait until Biden/Harris ban ALL hunting and use of firearms on ALL Federal lands and waterways.
The communist anti-guns cabal and the PETA Pimps have been advocating that for a long time.
After all, if you can't hunt, why do you need those evil guns? Self defense? No, just call 9-1-1.
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That's their exact argument. Been that way for years.
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When groups like PETA get hold of Biden, we can expect about anything. Putting sage grouse on the endangered list could shut down many 1000's of square miles of western range land for hunting, grazing, oil production, etc. An EO closing federal land to hunting would close 32 million acres in Idaho alone. The next 2 years are especially dangerous, until the midterm election.
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With this liberal lunacy importing trophies is the least of our worries. THE TRUTH!
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Seems our elected emperors can do anything without involving the house, senate, or courts. Just write it down, and it's so.
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Yep, and my Leopard cites permit as well as the 6 other animals were stamped before that commie son of a whore stole the election!
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And his name is spelled bidet, not biden! he's always been a real ass washer!
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If dope dealers can smuggle in kilos then surely some game animal mounts can find their way here. JFC
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Obiden is a waste of space! He won’t be able to do a state of the union address unless it’s just after breakfast, he can’t hold it together that long. His brain 🧠 is toast.
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Seems our elected emperors can do anything without involving the house, senate, or courts. Just write it down, and it's so. “Let it be spoken, let it be written”. Pharaoh to Charlton Heston in the big movie. Does this brain dead idiot think he’s Pharaoh? DF
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braindead will ban any thing he is told to ban . he is just a show piece for the damm a ratts
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Rock Chuck, I think your comment regarding using wolves to reduce hunting is right on and it may be working. The Lolo elk herd not too long ago was at 16,000 today it's down to a little over 1000 animals.
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Im sure BHA will help American hunters and fight this !!!!!!!!!!
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Don’t confuse’em with the facts.
Don’t let them know how hunting actually saves game, how money spent by hunters supports habitat and management costs.
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Many of them know that, but it doesn't fit their dogma, and simply refuse to let hunter driven conservation (which is still the bulk of conservation efforts around the world) interfere with their politically correct philosophy. They had an episode of 60 minutes or some similar show a few years ago about Oryx hunting in Texas. PETA was one of the guests and their spokesman said theyd rather the species go completely extinct than a single animal be hunted. Thats the mentality we're dealing with. They dont care about conservation or the animals just their own little world view
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Rock Chuck, I think your comment regarding using wolves to reduce hunting is right on and it may be working. The Lolo elk herd not too long ago was at 16,000 today it's down to a little over 1000 animals. Have they died out or just moved? That's what we're seeing in many areas. The wolves have pushed the elk lower onto private land year round but the numbers haven't changed much.
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i think Biejing Biden needs to worry more about getting handi-cap stair chairs installed on all stairs in America .
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You've heard nothing yet. Just wait until one of the pair, attempts the "State of the Nation" address in a few months.
That’s gonna be a [bleep] show because they can’t just pull him away and hide him. Should be entertaining.
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If they close Federal land to hunting, I expect there’ll be a lot of fires. Down here when the FS was killing hardwood (TSI - Timber Stand Improvement) signs started going up, “You kill the hardwood, we’ll burn the pine”
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He's a hypocrite. Look who his VP is ... a Foreign Big Game Trophy.
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