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If Savage could contract with Miroku to make new Savage 1899s, would you buy them?

I was recently offered a deal on a Winchester 1892 take-down trapper style carbine, one of the Davidson's specials in 44-40, and was impressed by how well it was made, fit and finish wise. It wasn't a rifle that I was interested in, but I was thinking that a Miroku 1899 250-3000 rifle would be a nice to have if the price was under $1,200.

Nope, I would rather spend a bit more on a real 99. Not saying wouldn't buy a savage bolt gun if it was made in japan, my savage scopes that say made in usa were made in japan,i haven't figured that one out yet !!!!

NO !!

I would buy a Miroku made 99 if the prce was not out of site. Non savage calibers would make it more interesting.
Miroku makes nice rifles

Really no interest

If I were in the market for yet another hunting rifle (and I'm not) I would certainly consider a Miroku-made 99. Those folks know how to build a flawless smooth operating rifle. I currently own two Miroku-built guns, a Browning Low Wall .223 and a Winchester/Miroku Low Wall .22 rimfire, and have owned other Winchester clones and O/U shotguns made by Miroku and am here to tell you they are absolutely first rate guns. Easily the equal of their progenitors, and frankly better in most aspects.

I betcha in another generation these will be collectible in their own right.

Based on how well my 1892 functions, yes, if I were in the market and the price was right, in a heartbeat.

I've got plenty of Model 99s to shoot and hunt with, so probably not. But Miroku makes beautiful guns - I have a couple. Now, if they made a D&T copy of the 99 T in 7mm-08 I would have to reconsider!

To hunt with, I'd consider it. Considering the number of $1000+ new lever guns on the market, I can't believe there would be no market.

Well it would look a hell of a lot better than a BLR and even if they did the clip fed C version I would be interested at under a grand. Would prefer one in .250 with a fast twist. I can see the Creedmoor rounds in it too

Wonder if they would do a long action like they did with the BLRs?

How to change my opinion quickly to "No, I wouldn't buy one".

Nope. Won't buy a Japchester either.

Only ‘modern’ guns that I have interest in are Kimber Montana’s and 1st generation Remington Ti’s.

Yes, I would,
(I have a Winchester 52C Sporting..., made by Miroku, nice rifle.)

How about a Browning Citori, made by Miroku?

How about Itailian-made Marlins, Winchesters, and Sharps? (Chiappa),

These are all quality-foreign-built firearms, that mimic quality-American built firearms, that are no longer being made in America.

How about a J. Stevens 44-1/2 schutzen rifle, made in America, ... by CPA? ($1200 for a nicely case-colored action)

These manufacturing decisions were all made more than a generation ago, (check to see where your T-shirts and dungarees are made..).

I would buy Miroku-Savage 99..but I doubt it would be more affordable than most collectible originals are going for. The economics of making a 99 copy make it a non-starter.

I've been lurking here for awhile; trying to learn about the 99 and would eventually like to purchase my first. That being said, I'd prefer an American-made 99, BUT as others have stated, Miroku makes a fine firearm, so for the right price, yes I'd purchase one.

I would buy a Miroku Savage 99 in 30-06 in a heartbeat. Zero interest in buying a standard 99 from any other manufacturer as I have the real thing in multiples.

I wouldn’t want a long action as I think it would be ugly as hell but just figuring that would be the next step but maybe Savage wouldn’t act like Browning and ruin a good thing. Having said that I would be in favor of a slightly reduced sized action in the .223 and similar cartridges as long as it was proportional.

An octagon barreled Model 29A? In a heart beat!

What about a run of 1899CD's in 38-55, 25-35, 32-40, 30-30? I doubt many of us would buy one, but the less dedicated collector might toss out $1500-$1800 for one to display.

In heartbeat if in the right caliber and price was within reason, some of the best rifles i own or owned were made there.

Definitely have no hesitation to purchase any Miroku firearm based on quality.
Miroku quality, fit and finish from the several I own is top notch for any non-custom current production.
As much as I admire collector grade 99’s and am amazed and learn from the collections here I am a shooter

Depending on the model I would purchase a Miroku 99 to be able to afford and shoot without hesitation an otherwise “unobtainium” model😀

I would buy a Miroku 99 .358 in a heartbeat.
I own three Miroku made Brownings and every one of them have been totally reliable with great fit and finish.

Miroku made at least one dog, the Winchester 101 Grand European combination guns and O/U double rifles with rifle barrels that didn't have any mechanism to regulate the rifle barrels.

I have a Miroku 1885 Low Wall that's a very nice rifle. If Miroku built a 99 for Savage I would get over it. There's a ton of Miroku Browning and Winchesters out there, meaning that those guys got over it. The domestic 99s have and always woud be a different beast, but a Miroku made 99 wld not be a slouch by any measure.

Would
A Miroku built 99 be well made. Without a doubt. Nothing could be worse than a Spanish 99. Would I buy a Miroku 99? NO Never.

I'm with pacecars, any scaled down 99 for the 222/223 family of cartridges is on my really short list, like my list of 1! I wouldn't care if it was made in Bangledesh!

What I would not buy is a 99 clone made in The People's Republic of China. Zimbabwe, maybe, but not China.

Wouldn't it be cool if they made the first ones in .22 High Power, with, like, a 1-8" twist? I would definitely be standing at their doorstep waving fist full's of Benjamins at them

I'm sure they could make a very nice rifle.

But it wouldn't be the same....

SADLY, I have to agree with gnoahhh. Again.

I have a 300 Savage 99 now, and so I would not, but if I was looking for a 99 I might just buy one.
I've owned several Brownings made there, and all have been excellent. Two 86s, a 92, a 71, two 95s, and a M12 20 gauge shotgun. All were beautifully made

They all better be Monarchs , and cheap as dirt. I need some walnut stocks to put things back in order.

I would give one a try

forget the 30-06 class of cartridges. Savage tried to develop a 99 for those higher pressure cartridges in the 1990's. It wouldn't work due to the four degree angle where the back of the bolt locks to the receiver. The higher pressure cartridges would disengage the bolt on firing. The 30-06 prototype from the 1930s is shown on page 87 of my book. The long receiver is ugly.

I have three Miroku's. Two Winchester 52C's and a Winchester 65 in .218 Bee. All rifles I wanted growing up but didn't have or didn't want to put the money out for a top condition one.

Would I buy a Miroku 99EG in .300 Sav...no! Not realy excited about an engraved one but maybe like Rory said an 1899CD in 38-55, 25-35, 32-40, 30-30...make it a short rifle, or a Barrel Band in 22HP with a fast twist or in .223. It would have to be a version that I wish they had made but didn't or one that an original cost more than the reproduction.

Can't buy a decent original 25-35, maybe that'd punch my ticket.

I would definitely consider buying one in .358 W. Especially if it was significantly cheaper.

Nope! Whatever the dollar figure it would take, I'd buy a 99 made in the U.S. of A. instead and have a 'Real' 99! While Miroku does do quality work from what I've seen, I buy USA as much and when I can. No Japanese cars thank you. Definitely no China products if I can help it.

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YES!!! If it was a copy of the 1893 prototype in 32-20. Might even buy two if they made one in .45 Colt...

All day, every day and twice on Sundays. Miroku makes good gear.

Anyone who categorically states they wouldn't buy a Miroku-made rifle either has never owned/handled/shot one or who is dead set against buying "Made in Japan" for ancient political reasons or a misguided outlook concerning Japanese quality. It's no longer 1944, and Japan is one of our staunchest allies now. If one still carries the "sneak attack on Pearl Harbor" attitude then I hope that extends to buying anything made in Germany too. Yeah, there are still people like that out there....

I draw the line with Chinese made stuff, mainly A. for current political reasons but also B. because of the dodgy quality one may expect. Even the Chinese quality issue has a lot of exceptions - but which to me are nullified by A. above. But, one must be careful there too because Made in Taiwan is different, and because Taiwanese consider themselves the only "true China" a lot of their stuff is marked "Made in China".

Take optics for example. I talked with an entrepreneur who engaged in marketing mainland Chinese-made scopes. He said it's all about demanding world-class quality when placing an order. If you don't insist on top quality, and put yourself physically on site to guarantee it, you'll get crap. They're capable of best quality work but won't give it to you if they think for a second that they can get over on you. It's a game to them. But, for me, it's a moot point - see A. above.

And no, Mr. Brooke, the Germans did not bomb Pearl Harbor.

I would definitely buy one! I suspect if they offered one in Creedmoor they'd sell a ton to the "man bun" types as well.

If I want a Savage, I'll buy a Savage. Not a knock-off.

So, your 1895 SRC is up for sale now? It's a Marlin, you know.

So we'll just start calling them "the other" Marlin 1895, and eliminate them from Savage history.

Hee hee.. had to give you a bit of a hard time there. I've got an 1895, and I have a spanish made 99C, and I don't plan on letting either go even if they weren't made in a Savage factory.

I would only buy a Miroku 99 if it was a cartridge or configuration not easily or cheaply found that I wanted to hunt with, or I thought would end up collectible.

You know me. I have yet to see/own a Savage that I would not take to the woods and hunt it. If I remember correctly I took my share of flak for taking my unfired K to Anticosti Island not once, but twice. My first trip I saw nothing while I was carrying it. The next day I shot my 2 bucks with an EG in 250-3000. The following year I took it again and had to actually belly crawl through some think blow downs to get the the swamp I wanted to hunt and came up with this guy.

I think I am done buying guns but I've always wanted a 32-40 SRC.

That gun might knock me off the wagon.

You and me both.

Thats the only saddlering carbine im missing !!

i would in 358 win

I might if it came in a cartridge that interested me. JMO OMV. Life's too short to shoot rifles that aren't interesting.