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If Savage could contract with Miroku to make new Savage 1899s, would you buy them?
I was recently offered a deal on a Winchester 1892 take-down trapper style carbine, one of the Davidson's specials in 44-40, and was impressed by how well it was made, fit and finish wise. It wasn't a rifle that I was interested in, but I was thinking that a Miroku 1899 250-3000 rifle would be a nice to have if the price was under $1,200.
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Nope, I would rather spend a bit more on a real 99. Not saying wouldn't buy a savage bolt gun if it was made in japan, my savage scopes that say made in usa were made in japan,i haven't figured that one out yet !!!!
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I would buy a Miroku made 99 if the prce was not out of site. Non savage calibers would make it more interesting. Miroku makes nice rifles
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If I were in the market for yet another hunting rifle (and I'm not) I would certainly consider a Miroku-made 99. Those folks know how to build a flawless smooth operating rifle. I currently own two Miroku-built guns, a Browning Low Wall .223 and a Winchester/Miroku Low Wall .22 rimfire, and have owned other Winchester clones and O/U shotguns made by Miroku and am here to tell you they are absolutely first rate guns. Easily the equal of their progenitors, and frankly better in most aspects.
I betcha in another generation these will be collectible in their own right.
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Based on how well my 1892 functions, yes, if I were in the market and the price was right, in a heartbeat.
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I've got plenty of Model 99s to shoot and hunt with, so probably not. But Miroku makes beautiful guns - I have a couple. Now, if they made a D&T copy of the 99 T in 7mm-08 I would have to reconsider!
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To hunt with, I'd consider it. Considering the number of $1000+ new lever guns on the market, I can't believe there would be no market.
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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Well it would look a hell of a lot better than a BLR and even if they did the clip fed C version I would be interested at under a grand. Would prefer one in .250 with a fast twist. I can see the Creedmoor rounds in it too
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Wonder if they would do a long action like they did with the BLRs?
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Wonder if they would do a long action like they did with the BLRs? How to change my opinion quickly to "No, I wouldn't buy one".
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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Nope. Won't buy a Japchester either.
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Only ‘modern’ guns that I have interest in are Kimber Montana’s and 1st generation Remington Ti’s.
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Yes, I would, (I have a Winchester 52C Sporting..., made by Miroku, nice rifle.)
How about a Browning Citori, made by Miroku?
How about Itailian-made Marlins, Winchesters, and Sharps? (Chiappa),
These are all quality-foreign-built firearms, that mimic quality-American built firearms, that are no longer being made in America.
How about a J. Stevens 44-1/2 schutzen rifle, made in America, ... by CPA? ($1200 for a nicely case-colored action)
These manufacturing decisions were all made more than a generation ago, (check to see where your T-shirts and dungarees are made..).
I would buy Miroku-Savage 99..but I doubt it would be more affordable than most collectible originals are going for. The economics of making a 99 copy make it a non-starter.
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I've been lurking here for awhile; trying to learn about the 99 and would eventually like to purchase my first. That being said, I'd prefer an American-made 99, BUT as others have stated, Miroku makes a fine firearm, so for the right price, yes I'd purchase one.
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I would buy a Miroku Savage 99 in 30-06 in a heartbeat. Zero interest in buying a standard 99 from any other manufacturer as I have the real thing in multiples.
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Wonder if they would do a long action like they did with the BLRs? How to change my opinion quickly to "No, I wouldn't buy one". I wouldn’t want a long action as I think it would be ugly as hell but just figuring that would be the next step but maybe Savage wouldn’t act like Browning and ruin a good thing. Having said that I would be in favor of a slightly reduced sized action in the .223 and similar cartridges as long as it was proportional.
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An octagon barreled Model 29A? In a heart beat!
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If Savage could contract with Miroku to make new Savage 1899s, would you buy them?
I was recently offered a deal on a Winchester 1892 take-down trapper style carbine, one of the Davidson's specials in 44-40, and was impressed by how well it was made, fit and finish wise. It wasn't a rifle that I was interested in, but I was thinking that a Miroku 1899 250-3000 rifle would be a nice to have if the price was under $1,200. What about a run of 1899CD's in 38-55, 25-35, 32-40, 30-30? I doubt many of us would buy one, but the less dedicated collector might toss out $1500-$1800 for one to display.
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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