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I thought it was pretty well established that both vaccines may not protect from "infection" but do protect from "disease" brought about from the infection. In other words, you can still get the virus but you won't get sick if vaccinated. And I didn't think that was uncommon in vaccinations... that inhibiting the disease over the infection itself is the more common form.

I watched the video and couldn't really figure out what the hell he was driving at.

Do you understand how a virus infects the body? And how it reproduces within the body? Or even what a virus actually is?


Not really. But here are a couple of articles describing what I just did and are seemingly consistent with what the guy in the video explains. Be my guest and clear it up for me.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/healthcare/can-you-still-spread-covid-19-after-you-get-vaccinated

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/.../65-f65cb7ee-24dc-48d0-bc08-8cfb3423a3b6


Okay, this is kind of a simplified, 7'th grade biology explanation of viral infection.

A virus is not a bacteria. It is not actually a living organism. It does not feed and divide within the body.
A virus is actually just a molecule. A nucleac acid genome (DNA or RNA), encased in a protein shell.

The virus infects the body by invading cells within the body. Once inside a cell, the protein envelope opens and lets the genome loose within the cell. The genome then co-opts the cells own DNA/RNA and causes the host cell to replicate many clones of the invader. Those clones then burst out of the cell, usually destroying the membrane of the host cell and killing it.

The numbers of virus within the body explodes exponentially until the body can marshal defenses to stop the infection.

There are defense aparatus in the body which recognize such infections and contribute to the production of the body's defenses.

This is what these new vaccines are purported to do. Their job is to make the body recognize the viral infection earlier and speed the production of defenses.

The vaccine actually does nothing until an infection occurs. By definition, you must become infected with the virus before the body starts producing the agents which will eliminate the infection.

So yes, what you said about getting infected after vaccination is true, and expected. But the vaccination helps the body to keep the number of infected cells low enough that they are not debilitating. Thus, in a way, preventing the disease.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
Before I watch, do they mention the “vax” turning me into a walking 5-G antenna and some glow in the dark stuff named after the Devil?

Like all of Happy Camper’s videos on this subject?

Here's one quick result on the basic topic of the Luciferase I think you are referring to at the end. It doesn't get into the details like my bookmarks, but they are no longer available since YouTube banned the channels. Look up Quantum Dot and you'll find more.

https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/05/s...icroneedle-vaccine-delivery-system-work/

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by copperking81
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by copperking81
I thought it was pretty well established that both vaccines may not protect from "infection" but do protect from "disease" brought about from the infection. In other words, you can still get the virus but you won't get sick if vaccinated. And I didn't think that was uncommon in vaccinations... that inhibiting the disease over the infection itself is the more common form.

I watched the video and couldn't really figure out what the hell he was driving at.

Do you understand how a virus infects the body? And how it reproduces within the body? Or even what a virus actually is?


Not really. But here are a couple of articles describing what I just did and are seemingly consistent with what the guy in the video explains. Be my guest and clear it up for me.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/healthcare/can-you-still-spread-covid-19-after-you-get-vaccinated

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/.../65-f65cb7ee-24dc-48d0-bc08-8cfb3423a3b6


Okay, this is kind of a simplified, 7'th grade biology explanation of viral infection.

A virus is not a bacteria. It is not actually a living organism. It does not feed and divide within the body.
A virus is actually just a molecule. A nucleac acid genome (DNA or RNA), encased in a protein shell.

The virus infects the body by invading cells within the body. Once inside a cell, the protein envelope opens and lets the genome loose within the cell. The genome then co-opts the cells own DNA/RNA and causes the host cell to replicate many clones of the invader. Those clones then burst out of the cell, usually destroying the membrane of the host cell and killing it.

The numbers of virus within the body explodes exponentially until the body can marshal defenses to stop the infection.

There are defense aparatus in the body which recognize such infections and contribute to the production of the body's defenses.

This is what these new vaccines are purported to do. Their job is to make the body recognize the viral infection earlier and speed the production of defenses.

The vaccine actually does nothing until an infection occurs. By definition, you must become infected with the virus before the body starts producing the agents which will eliminate the infection.

So yes, what you said about getting infected after vaccination is true, and expected. But the vaccination helps the body to keep the number of infected cells low enough that they are not debilitating. Thus, in a way, preventing the disease.


Thanks. The doc in the video more or less explained what you and I just did... that the vaccines themselves do not outright stop infection. I think the difference, and this is my interpretation of his spiel, was that he presented that truth as controversial which is what I was reacting to. Everything both you and he described, was consistent with how I understood the coronavirus vaccines to work and just about all other vaccines for that matter.

So I'm not sure I understand his point.

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His point was disinformation and to cause fear among the ill-informed.

Lots of that available on the Right these days as well as the Left.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
Before I watch, do they mention the “vax” turning me into a walking 5-G antenna and some glow in the dark stuff named after the Devil?

Like all of Happy Camper’s videos on this subject?

Here you go slumlord.
This is the plan after what gates called his "final solution."
He started this company to make $ and control the world economies through his "Verification MARK.".
He calls it that because he probably wanted to pick a biblical term. Lol.

This is his patent and the details.
Nothing is certain as elon musk even has a version.
One thing I believe is that forced vaccines and other things like central banking, buying or selling or having a job will be implemented eventually. The quantum dot might be one of the technical vehicles to make it work.
The enzyme agent is Luciferase, that phosphoreses from its inserted location in the back of the hand, or elons in the forehead is likely fulfillment of Revelation 13:16-18 KJV....

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

I think that there's some wisdom in understanding it coming together like this. What do you think?
Would you share this with your pastor? I'm curious what he thinks about this post. Include the patent link if you do.

https://patentscope2.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606

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Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Originally Posted by slumlord
Before I watch, do they mention the “vax” turning me into a walking 5-G antenna and some glow in the dark stuff named after the Devil?

Like all of Happy Camper’s videos on this subject?

Here's one quick result on the basic topic of the Luciferase I think you are referring to at the end. It doesn't get into the details like my bookmarks, but they are no longer available since YouTube banned the channels. Look up Quantum Dot and you'll find more.

https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/05/s...icroneedle-vaccine-delivery-system-work/



I’ve seen it a couple times outside of your links.

Thought I was going to have sit through it again with some friends and then my in-laws (bless their heart)


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IMO, the biggest scam of all this is that they are saying you still need to mask up & social distance (i.e. lock down) even after you get the full course of these vaccines.

WTF?


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Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Originally Posted by slumlord
Before I watch, do they mention the “vax” turning me into a walking 5-G antenna and some glow in the dark stuff named after the Devil?

Like all of Happy Camper’s videos on this subject?

Here you go slumlord.
This is the plan after what gates called his "final solution."
He started this company to make $ and control the world economies through his "Verification MARK.".
He calls it that because he probably wanted to pick a biblical term. Lol.

This is his patent and the details.
Nothing is certain as elon musk even has a version.
One thing I believe is that forced vaccines and other things like central banking, buying or selling or having a job will be implemented eventually. The quantum dot might be one of the technical vehicles to make it work.
The enzyme agent is Luciferase, that phosphoreses from its inserted location in the back of the hand, or elons in the forehead is likely fulfillment of Revelation 13:16-18 KJV....

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

I think that there's some wisdom in understanding it coming together like this. What do you think?
Would you share this with your pastor? I'm curious what he thinks about this post. Include the patent link if you do.

https://patentscope2.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606

It really does seem that all things are falling into place.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
IMO, the biggest scam of all this is that they are saying you still need to mask up & social distance (i.e. lock down) even after you get the full course of these vaccines.

WTF?

Yes, they do say that, and that's because it's not a vaccine. It doesn't prevent transmission from those who are vaccinated.


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I always suspected that most of our population was stupid.

COVID 19 affirmed it.


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Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Originally Posted by slumlord
Before I watch, do they mention the “vax” turning me into a walking 5-G antenna and some glow in the dark stuff named after the Devil?

Like all of Happy Camper’s videos on this subject?

Here you go slumlord.
This is the plan after what gates called his "final solution."
He started this company to make $ and control the world economies through his "Verification MARK.".
He calls it that because he probably wanted to pick a biblical term. Lol.

This is his patent and the details.
Nothing is certain as elon musk even has a version.
One thing I believe is that forced vaccines and other things like central banking, buying or selling or having a job will be implemented eventually. The quantum dot might be one of the technical vehicles to make it work.
The enzyme agent is Luciferase, that phosphoreses from its inserted location in the back of the hand, or elons in the forehead is likely fulfillment of Revelation 13:16-18 KJV....

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

I think that there's some wisdom in understanding it coming together like this. What do you think?
Would you share this with your pastor? I'm curious what he thinks about this post. Include the patent link if you do.

https://patentscope2.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606

So, what makes this theory any more viable than the theory I was told sixty years ago where the pope is the anti-christ and the mark of the beast is Sunday worship?


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by copperking81
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by copperking81
I thought it was pretty well established that both vaccines may not protect from "infection" but do protect from "disease" brought about from the infection. In other words, you can still get the virus but you won't get sick if vaccinated. And I didn't think that was uncommon in vaccinations... that inhibiting the disease over the infection itself is the more common form.

I watched the video and couldn't really figure out what the hell he was driving at.

Do you understand how a virus infects the body? And how it reproduces within the body? Or even what a virus actually is?


Not really. But here are a couple of articles describing what I just did and are seemingly consistent with what the guy in the video explains. Be my guest and clear it up for me.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/healthcare/can-you-still-spread-covid-19-after-you-get-vaccinated

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/.../65-f65cb7ee-24dc-48d0-bc08-8cfb3423a3b6


Okay, this is kind of a simplified, 7'th grade biology explanation of viral infection.

A virus is not a bacteria. It is not actually a living organism. It does not feed and divide within the body.
A virus is actually just a molecule. A nucleac acid genome (DNA or RNA), encased in a protein shell.

The virus infects the body by invading cells within the body. Once inside a cell, the protein envelope opens and lets the genome loose within the cell. The genome then co-opts the cells own DNA/RNA and causes the host cell to replicate many clones of the invader. Those clones then burst out of the cell, usually destroying the membrane of the host cell and killing it.

The numbers of virus within the body explodes exponentially until the body can marshal defenses to stop the infection.

There are defense aparatus in the body which recognize such infections and contribute to the production of the body's defenses.

This is what these new vaccines are purported to do. Their job is to make the body recognize the viral infection earlier and speed the production of defenses.

The vaccine actually does nothing until an infection occurs. By definition, you must become infected with the virus before the body starts producing the agents which will eliminate the infection.

So yes, what you said about getting infected after vaccination is true, and expected. But the vaccination helps the body to keep the number of infected cells low enough that they are not debilitating. Thus, in a way, preventing the disease.

So they could track the Modified/ activated part of RNA/DNA with a test of some sort as proof that you complied to directives to get the shot???
Nothing like that could possibly be used against you in a utopian Liberal Socialist Democrat society down the line when they have complete authoritarian control...

Hmmmmm????

Pass on the shot or the microchip proposals for convenience of life matters that they are beginning to condition the sheeple too right now.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by denton
Antibodies fade fairly quickly after you get well again. Your T and B cells remember for a long time, and that is what the vaccine sets up.

A voice of sanity.


Thanks, with some of the far off opinions devoid of fact expressed here it makes me wonder how in the world some here do something like reloading their own ammo without blowing off a hand.

From Wikipedia

A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.[1] A vaccine typically contains a biological preparation from disease-causing microorganism or made synthetically that resembles it.


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Originally Posted by Renegade 50

So they could track the Modified/ activated part of RNA/DNA with a test of some sort as proof that you complied to directives to get the shot???
Nothing like that could possibly be used against you in a utopian Liberal Socialist Democrat society down the line when they have complete authoritarian control...


How is this vax any different in that regard than any of the multitude you received while in the military.

Do not those dead virus, or weakened virus inoculations contain DNA and RNA? Could that genetic material also be tested for?

Do not all of our polio, smallpox, flu, pneumonia, DPT, MMR, and all the other vax the kids are required before they start school contain DNA and RNA?


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Originally Posted by Bisley
That's exactly what a vaccine does, stimulate your immune system.


No it isn't. A vaccine make you immune to the disease you are vaccinated for.

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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I haven’t seen an available antigen test yet? If you can’t check antibodies then you don’t have a vaccine.
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-There is an antibody test but the FDA says not to use it for COVID-19 because it's not an accurate test.

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Renegade 50

So they could track the Modified/ activated part of RNA/DNA with a test of some sort as proof that you complied to directives to get the shot???
Nothing like that could possibly be used against you in a utopian Liberal Socialist Democrat society down the line when they have complete authoritarian control...


How is this vax any different in that regard than any of the multitude you received while in the military.

Do not those dead virus, or weakened virus inoculations contain DNA and RNA? Could that genetic material also be tested for?

Do not all of our polio, smallpox, flu, pneumonia, DPT, MMR, and all the other vax the kids are required before they start school contain DNA and RNA?

Ahhhhhh...
One they will look for?
For compliance with their agenda of control.....

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Originally Posted by victoro
Originally Posted by Bisley
That's exactly what a vaccine does, stimulate your immune system.


No it isn't. A vaccine make you immune to the disease you are vaccinated for.

How does it do that? How is immunity conferred without "stimulating" the immune system to recognize said pathogen and defeat it?


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" how is that not a vaccine"

Vaccines are made from the actual virus and will make you immune from that virus. If you get these "vaccines" you won't be immune from COVID-19. Did you watch the whole video?

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