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Starting a third party is a bad idea. A THIRD PARTY IS PLAYING RIGHT INTO THE DEMOCRATS AND LEFTISTS HAND MORE THAN THEY COULD HOPE FOR. Did we learn nothing from the 1992 debacle with Perot and Bush? The Dems took it because the Republicans were split between 2 candidates and our system is Winner-Take-All. Also, this is exactly what happened when Teddy Roosevelt ran on the Bull Moose, (Progressive), Republican ticket. The GOP and Bull Moose candidates lost to the Democrats, electing Democratic Woodrow Wilson President. It will guarantee they will stay in power as long as there is a third party. Why? Because the elections are determined by who gets the most votes. Like it or not, a third party made up of ticked off Republicans (I am totally ticked off too) will split the conservative/rightwing vote nearly always and thus leaving the Democrat with the most votes even though the Republican and the Patriot party candidates got over 50% when combined. If the representatives really aren't representing their constituents, then kick 'em out and put people in who will stand up for what the people want. Only problem is: what the people really want isn't necessarily politically correct, politicians are a narcissistic breed and if not independently wealthy will be beholden to "special interest groups" for funding. Trump was a billionaire and thus able to tell the special interests to "take a hike".
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Agree things are EXACLTY the same as they were in 1992 - remain seated - have some more chipsNdips , nfl , honey hand me another pepsi
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Correct. Primary the Rhinos is the way
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people that text all day get on my nerves
just knowing that people are out there with that ability,....just makes me wanna punch myself in the balls
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Correct. Primary the Rhinos is the way Yeah i'm sure 80 million Trump voters are itching to hang with the GOP ---->lol
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Correct. Primary the Rhinos is the way Are the Dominion machines not used during the Primaries ? Just curious.
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A "Party" isn't in control. The deep state is in control. It controls both parties and if a 3rd, 4th, or 5th one comes along, it will control them also.
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Correct. Primary the Rhinos is the way Have you ever been involved with a group that has tried to primary out a incumbent? Let me tell you from first hand experience it is next to impossible. If the state party is behind them it is impossible. The state party has the power to say what happens in a primary. The incumbent has the money and backing to bury any challenger. The incumbent has the name recognition. Low informed voters will always go for the incumbent. The state party will not abandon a incumbent unless they have done something criminal or extremely wrong. The party always says the election is to important or to close to gamble on a unknown. I've been involved with trying to primary out a do nothing RINO congressman with a great Tea Party candidate for three election cycles. This district is solidly red. A democrat doesn't stand a chance but the party and money always shut us down. The only way to get that guy off the ticket is to use a sniper.
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[quote=Raspy]Starting a third party is a bad idea. A THIRD PARTY IS PLAYING RIGHT INTO THE DEMOCRATS AND LEFTISTS HAND MORE THAN THEY COULD HOPE FOR. Did we learn nothing from the 1992 debacle with Perot and Bush? The Dems took it because the Republicans were split between 2 candidates and our system is Winner-Take-All. Raspy you are wrong in my opinion,,, Perot lost the republican support after he said the “n” word he went downhill fast Most republicans were in total support of his tax plan
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If not a third party now then be satisfied with the Uniparty that we now have and this ain’t 1992 with now having a 75 million group of enraged voters.
Even if the next elections are stolen, 75 million makes a statement of a force to be reckoned with cause it’s all that you now have left of the remaining pieces.
Primary out, you say??? Laughable.
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Third parties work, it takes many years to get one going.
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A "Party" isn't in control. The deep state is in control. It controls both parties and if a 3rd, 4th, or 5th one comes along, it will control them also. And...”once a Deep State situation has taken over, only a revolution or a dictatorship can turn it around, and probably only in a small country.” https://internationalman.com/articles/how-to-survive-the-deep-state/
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[quote= Perot lost the republican support after he said the “n” word he went downhill fast Most republicans were in total support of his tax plan[/quote] Never heard that, but I'm not saying it is not true....I did hear President Johnson say the n word...
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Third parties work, it takes many years to get one going. The last time a 3rd party succeeded was in 1860. That was the Republican Party. However: The Whigs had self destructed. The Democrat Party had split and nominated two different candidates for president. The southern states refused to let the Republican's (Lincoln) name appear on the ballot. The outgoing president (Buchanan, a Democrat) didn't endorse either Democrat. Even then, the Republican only got 40% of the vote. but that was enough to winin the electoral college. So...as for a 3rd party nowadays, fuggedaboudit!
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
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The Republican Party began as a third party. You guys are idiots. Look in the mirror, and admit it.
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The Republican Party began as a third party. You guys are idiots. Look in the mirror, and admit it. i will say, 'you guys are idiots', and look in the mirror while doing so.
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If not a third party now then be satisfied with the Uniparty that we now have and this ain’t 1992 with now having a 75 million group of enraged voters.
Even if the next elections are stolen, 75 million makes a statement of a force to be reckoned with cause it’s all that you now have left of the remaining pieces.
Primary out, you say??? Laughable.
I fart in your direction. Yes, it’s laughable, extremely so, but so is thinking a third party can beat the Dominions and Biden’s “most advance election fraud network ever developed “. They aren’t going to turn off this network now that Trump is gone, that is lunacy to believe such.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Why does everyone keep saying we have a 2 party system? Has the last few weeks not shown us we have one party with 2 branches? You may have a few stragglers like Cruz and some others, but most Republicans have been in lock step with the Democrats.
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The Republican Party began as a third party. You guys are idiots. Look in the mirror, and admit it. i will say, 'you guys are idiots', and look in the mirror while doing so. Close enough!
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[quote=wabigoon]Third parties work, it takes many years to get one going. The last time a 3rd party succeeded was in 1860. That was the Republican Party. However: The Whigs had self destructed. The Republican party has "self destructed" if you haven't noticed. The Democrat Party had split and nominated two different candidates for president. The democrat party no longer exists, the Progressive socialist party is in power now and they are losing support quickly. Are you liking the armed camp DC? Even then, the Republican only got 40% of the vote. but that was enough to winin the electoral college. We all know the last election was 70% fraud for the retard. So...as for a 3rd party nowadays, fuggedaboudit! Funny that suppose a third party came about that actually appealed to Demrats, independents and Republicans? Apparently the Patriot party is gathering as we speak. Actual old school democrats would like to be represented again.
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