Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Express Rifles and Big Bores Only Is 375 where big bore starts?

The type of rifle has ZERO to do with bore size.
A medium bore can most certainly be in an Ecpress rifle

I just looked at Kimber Caprivi. Yep, 375, 416, 458 Lott. Where is the 338 ?

Model 70 Super Grade stops at the 338:) then the Express M70 is 375, 416 and 458.

Just checked Norma Safari ammo. Starts at 375 Belted and 375 Flanged.

And the 375 H&H is still a 375 and a medium bore

Holland and Holland once considered anything under 10bore a light rifle and then under .500 a medium bore. They alter their view to popular belief whenever they want, its how you stay in top of marketing. Its also how we name things.

I started this thread to stimulate the forum a bit, knowing it always devolves into semantics. Hoping for a few more pages, but with the Jp452 guy already down to one liners, we are probably out of juice.;)

Oh well. Can we all just agree to disagree that 'bigbore' is subjective, the 375 H&H "apparently belongs on every bigbore forum" because no one has ever been able to get rid of it.

And I said H&H still produce .375 safari rifles
without such.and have been doing so for over
a century now

Ralf Martini has been producing top grade
English style mausers for some time , and
ribs are optional according to customer
budgets and tastes. His entry level featured
offering at $19,000 does not include quarter rib.

D'Arcy Echols Classics I've yet to see his large
bores with quarter ribs.

Jerry Fisher, he will build them with or without.

The new production Mauser 98 Magnum Expert
does not have a quarter rib for 375 or 416.

You have missed the point. Pick out the custom wood/blue rifles with quarter ribs and they will be nearly always 375 and up and often the very few that are smaller calibres will have a quarter rib because they are one of a pair of rifles.

By why are companies like Winchester, Weatherby and Kimber putting the 375 bore with the 416 and 45 and the 338 with the 300, 7mm Mag etc .I will tell you why and the answer is what the market will bear and the market will bear higher prices for a big bore.

Marketing does not make 375 a big bore.

It's marketed with the larger bores primarily
because it's often the legal minimum for DG.
and because 375 is such a versatile/popular
choice for Africa , I can see why companies
market 375 rifles and ammunition in the safari
category.

But wouldn't Winchester, Wby and Kimber prefer to get more money for a 338.

Here is a fellow who needs advice. Check what the thread starter's opening post. "never had a big bore"

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...r/15724066/gonew/1/anyone-375-roy#UNREAD

I recall Sako Safari .338win, 375 H&H, offered with
quarter rib , dropbox/bow release straddle floorplate
and barrel-band , ala African Express style.
..but they also offered regular, deluxe, superdeluxe
and a Fibreclass in same chamberings that looked
nothing like a safari style.

Sako Safari was also offered in 9,3x62.
and if I'm not dreaming an old Sako brochure
from very early 1980s or thereabouts showed
9,3x64 Brenneke in the listing.

Dakota 76 available in .338win African Grade
that looks similar to Sako Safari.

Yes, I remember them well. There have also been custom made scaled down versions on the little Sako Vixen action both in America and Australia.

THIS

Doesn't deserve more than one liners, it can be boiled down to simply "bore diameter"

Actually it only needs one word "no"

Some are on their way to calling the 6.5 Creedmoor a big bore. LMAO

As long as we have folks still posting this sort of stuff and the one liners keep reducing their sentence output, the thread will continue.

JpV375 You were down to one word posts above, even quoting yourself. I was hoping that trend would continue to either not hearing from you at all or worst case you just answering yourself each time

You are number challenged I see, plus, I don't give a rats azz as to what you want or like

Cmon now JVW358 you do or you wouldnt be replying on my thread. I appreciate the input btw. 3 pages of one liners and you self quoting, profound stuff.

And this has turned out to be a usual 375 thread on a bigbore forum too. Plenty of posts, lots of interest, pretty clear the calibre belongs here.

More like your usual trolling