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It would take me a long time to come up with a list of the top ten. I think I would frequently change the list and ranking until I had it right. Certainly, "Last Train From Gun Hill" would be among the top five on such a list.
As for one that always get mentioned among the best, I have to look at "High Noon" with some indifference. Fine western no doubt, perhaps top ten material, but I think the only thing that keeps it from being just "another good western" is the opening and credits with Tex Ritter's theme song and the assembly of the Miller gang at the same time. This was all unique and cleverly done. I think it had a lot to do with the success of the film, whether others realize it or not.
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Tombstone, and some of the others mentioned....however at the the number one spot is, and always will be, "The Magnificent Seven"! Not hardly, Magnificent 6 maybe. There ain’t nothing magnificent about Yul Brynner. His shaved head was fairly cool.
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You guys are weird.
blazing saddles is number 1.
Always has been, always will be.
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No Jose Wales??
High Noon? I have to agree on those two. I've been a High Noon fan since I was a kid, and have seen it at least a half dozen times. John Wayne didn't like it. Said it was communist, somehow. I guess it was a real departure from the classic Western he was a fan of at the time. I don't buy the premise of High Noon, that everybody in town was afraid to battle the bad guys and only the sheriff had the courage to fight them. In Northfield, Minnesota, the James Gang had ridden up from Missouri to rob the bank and they didn't mind if they killed a few townspeople. The town rose up against the bad guys, most of the towns people had guns and the ones that didn't, the hardware store was handing them rifles and ammo. The James Gang got all shot up and several were killed. Jesse James was not hit but he was lucky to make it out of Northfield alive. The same thing happened in Coffeyville, KS, when the Daltons and Doolins tried to rob the bank there, the townspeople shot them into doll rags, Emmett Dalton lived, and went to prison, with 17 bullet wounds from that little shootout. Yes! The citizens of Coffeyville fought back and killed four of the bad guys. These towns people of the Old West were tough pioneers, they were not sissies.
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John Ford was a racist. He did not employ enough hebrews as native Americans in any of his movies!
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Hands down, "White Comanche"
A true epic of cinematography !!!! [quote=kaywoodie] Was that The epic motion picture you starred in ? 😜
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The Mountain Men with Charlton Heston and Brian Keith should be on there too. One of my all-time favorites, and funny as hell!!!
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John Ford was a racist. He did not employ enough hebrews as native Americans in any of his movies! There weren’t many Hebrews living in Monument Valley back then!😬
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I watched Red River a few days ago, ya, it was OK but back then using correct guns was not an issue.
The beginning showed a wagon train in the 1850's, but they all wore Colt SAA, (not yet invented for another 20 years) and when attacked by Indians they used Trap Door Springfields again a gun not yet invented. At that point I turned it off. As much as I like John Wayne, and am a huge fan of his movies, very rarely were they ever period correct as far as the kind of firearms that were used. But, then there have been very few movies made that ever were.
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I watched Red River a few days ago, ya, it was OK but back then using correct guns was not an issue.
The beginning showed a wagon train in the 1850's, but they all wore Colt SAA, (not yet invented for another 20 years) and when attacked by Indians they used Trap Door Springfields again a gun not yet invented. At that point I turned it off. As much as I like John Wayne, and am a huge fan of his movies, very rarely were they ever period correct as far as the kind of firearms that were used. But, then there have been very few movies made that ever were. So true!
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
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Looks like nobody here has watched Godless
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[quote=kaywoodie]Hands down, "White Comanche"
A true epic of cinematography !!!!
Was that The epic motion picture you starred in ? 😜
Yeah, I was a papoose!!!
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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John Ford was a racist. He did not employ enough hebrews as native Americans in any of his movies! There weren’t many Hebrews living in Monument Valley back then!😬 Or Comanches! Ever!!!
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Agree with most, but one that I love to watch is The Far Country with Jimmy Stewart and Walter Brennan.
It would be on my list. As mentioned, Winchester 73 and the Liberty Valance movie would be there too.
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How about....
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So the problem is that you can't stop at just ten. Or twenty. Or thirty. Maybe only forty westerns that are outstanding so much that they distance themselves from all the others. But on top of that there is the problem that no matter how many you put on the list, there will always be one more that is somebody's favorite that we left off of ther list.
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Hombre - Richard Boone was great
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid for Katherine Ross if no other reason It was a good movie that should've been a great, great movie. The horrendous musical score destroyed that film. I'm talking Butch and Sundance. Agree on the music. Hokey.
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I watched Red River a few days ago, ya, it was OK but back then using correct guns was not an issue.
The beginning showed a wagon train in the 1850's, but they all wore Colt SAA, (not yet invented for another 20 years) and when attacked by Indians they used Trap Door Springfields again a gun not yet invented. At that point I turned it off. As much as I like John Wayne, and am a huge fan of his movies, very rarely were they ever period correct as far as the kind of firearms that were used. But, then there have been very few movies made that ever were. The more recently produced, the more likely the guns are period correct.
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Agree with most, but one that I love to watch is The Far Country with Jimmy Stewart and Walter Brennan.
It would be on my list. As mentioned, Winchester 73 and the Liberty Valance movie would be there too. Winchester 73 with Stewart was a total bore. Just dragged and dragged, and lots of stupid scenes.
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