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Originally Posted by atse
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Anything that kills them off is fine with me. They are smart SOB's - doubt it would even be possible to kill them off again without poison.

This. Idaho is pretty much hunting them non stop now. I am fine with this bill, but I don't think it will create a significant increase in wolf harvest.
I can see only a couple things it will change. The IDFG won't sell any tags and outfitters or others with money can use aircraft to hunt them.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
The answer to the wolf problem is easy and inexpensive.

Aerial bombardment of wolf habitat with poisoned meatballs.




You and lots others posting here don’t understand the Endangered Species Act do you?



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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
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Anything that kills them off is fine with me. They are smart SOB's - doubt it would even be possible to kill them off again without poison.

This. Idaho is pretty much hunting them non stop now. I am fine with this bill, but I don't think it will create a significant increase in wolf harvest.
I can see only a couple things it will change. The IDFG won't sell any tags and outfitters or others with money can use aircraft to hunt them.

That won't do anybody much good without radio collars.Once in a while we get lucky and find an un collared bunch in the open, but not alot. 90% of the time they are in heavy timber and are hard to locate even with a collar.

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Originally Posted by callnum
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
The answer to the wolf problem is easy and inexpensive.

Aerial bombardment of wolf habitat with poisoned meatballs.




You and lots others posting here don’t understand the Endangered Species Act do you?


When is the white male who gets up and goes to work going to be added to that Act?



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Originally Posted by callnum
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
The answer to the wolf problem is easy and inexpensive.

Aerial bombardment of wolf habitat with poisoned meatballs.




You and lots others posting here don’t understand the Endangered Species Act do you?

Lots of wolves in Alaska and the NW Territories. They are not endangered.

We did quite well for for nearly 80 years with extremely limited numbers of wolves west of Kansas in the lower 48.

There was one and only one motivation for repopulating the Rocky Mountain states and Oregon and Washington with wolves. That motivation was plain and obvious from the time Hornocker and company put the first wolf into their Idaho containment facility.

The wolves were translocated to Idaho so that they could eliminate hunting opportunities in the West as a means to advance gun control agendas. It was believed that elimination of hunting culture would bring about an end to gun culture.


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Yep you clearly don’t understand the ESA.


Seems you get you info from Lobowatch and that loon Toby Bridges.

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Originally Posted by callnum
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
The answer to the wolf problem is easy and inexpensive.

Aerial bombardment of wolf habitat with poisoned meatballs.




You and lots others posting here don’t understand the Endangered Species Act do you?



They’re not endangered you fugking moron!!!

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Originally Posted by Springcove
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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
The answer to the wolf problem is easy and inexpensive.

Aerial bombardment of wolf habitat with poisoned meatballs.




You and lots others posting here don’t understand the Endangered Species Act do you?



They’re not endangered you fugking moron!!!



The ESA does not care what you think. Have you read it as it pertains to wolves? Didn’t think so.



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The wolves are no longer on the ESA endangered list.

The ESA has been grossly violated in this wolf thing. Idaho had native wolves since time began. I saw some myself in Stanley Basin about 5 years before the introduction and I saw tracks several times. Nobody can mistake a wolf track for a coyote. Under the ESA, they should have put protections in place to try to preserve and propagate the native gene pool. Instead, they brought in foreign wolves and probably within a year the natives were killed or bred out of existence. It was all totally illegal.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The wolves are no longer on the ESA endangered list.

The ESA has been grossly violated in this wolf thing. Idaho had native wolves since time began. I saw some myself in Stanley Basin about 5 years before the introduction and I saw tracks several times. Nobody can mistake a wolf track for a coyote. Under the ESA, they should have put protections in place to try to preserve and propagate the native gene pool. Instead, they brought in foreign wolves and probably within a year the natives were killed or bred out of existence. It was all totally illegal.


Wrong. You need to read AND understand the Idaho wolf management plan and the triggers that will realist.


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Would this allow the use of hounds?

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Wolves have been removed from the national list, not just Idaho's. That's not saying Biden won't put them back on it and I'm sure he's under considerable pressure to do it.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Wolves have been removed from the national list, not just Idaho's. That's not saying Biden won't put them back on it and I'm sure he's under considerable pressure to do it.


Wrong again. Idaho’s wolf management plan had to be approved by the feds to delist. There are triggers in the plan that can put them back on the ESA.


Again read and understand the plan.



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I just read that in '19 ('20 figures aren't out yet), Idaho sold 45k wolf tags and harvested 118. At $11.25 for a resident tag, that's about $.5 mill that they won't take in for wolf management if this happens.


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Originally Posted by logcutter
I don't think it has changed much, there are those that just take care of business when it involves the wolves especially when there killing there pets and horses and in the so called protected area... Wolves are smart, I don't this bill would do much..


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Would this allow the use of hounds?


Hounds and wolves are a recipe for disaster.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I just read that in '19 ('20 figures aren't out yet), Idaho sold 45k wolf tags and harvested 118. At $11.25 for a resident tag, that's about $.5 mill that they won't take in for wolf management if this happens.

I bet there were a lot more killed if trapping numbers are added. Probably more than double. I know here in Montana the total take has been close to 250 a year forthe last several years. I bet Idaho is at that number or more. That doesn't include wolves removed for livestock depredation.

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Would this allow the use of hounds?


They kill your hounds.

Poison kills too many other predators - bears, mtn. lions, coyotes etc. for it to be a viable option.


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