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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by deflave

..the 4th Amendment.


Detail your gripe concerning AshB
and 4th Amendment.


They siezed her.....permanently


Correct.


Thats brilliant. Did you think of that one yourself? Anytime anyone is killed by law enforcement regardless of whether or not it was justified violates a person's 4th amendment rights. Wonder why that argument is never used in court. Maybe because its really stupid and only a moron would think of it.


Let’s hear the break down you Biden loving fugk.

PS-You are dumber than dog schit. And Jackson.

LOl


what is there to break down? The 4th amendment doesn't apply to storming the capitol and busting through barricades that protect elected officials. Do you know why her family isn't sueing on the grounds that her 4th amendment rights were violated? Because its stupid.

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I don’t spend my time amongst large crowds in Democrat controlled cities. Right vs wrong depends on which side writes the history. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

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Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by deflave

..the 4th Amendment.


Detail your gripe concerning AshB
and 4th Amendment.


They siezed her.....permanently


Correct.


Thats brilliant. Did you think of that one yourself? Anytime anyone is killed by law enforcement regardless of whether or not it was justified violates a person's 4th amendment rights. Wonder why that argument is never used in court. Maybe because its really stupid and only a moron would think of it.


Let’s hear the break down you Biden loving fugk.

PS-You are dumber than dog schit. And Jackson.

LOl


what is there to break down? The 4th amendment doesn't apply to storming the capitol and busting through barricades that protect elected officials. Do you know why her family isn't sueing on the grounds that her 4th amendment rights were violated? Because its stupid.


I guarantee there’s a lawsuit.

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Already violated the legal requirement for identification of shooter..


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Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
Already violated the legal requirement for identification of shooter..




Thank you.

If it's such a clean shoot, why is he hiding?

Call it what you want. That coward pos murdered that girl.


Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want.

Rehabilitation is way overrated.

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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

So articulate ....



We need to consider bottom-feeder Flav never
attained the level of education that would enable
him to articulate matters of Law in an appropriate
and coherent fashion to any reasonable degree.

His bragging high point in life is that he has
arrested people , yet there are ordinary good
folk out there who have effected Citizen Arrests
without beating their chests about it.


Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
So let's look at this through Graham v Connor.


Flav. harps on about 4th Amendment but never
once cared to mentioned Graham Vs Connor.

the fact he accepted it was a Legal shoot based
on what someone on the CF vaguely told him about
Capitol Police Policy ...is truelly cringeworthy.




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Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by deflave

..the 4th Amendment.


Detail your gripe concerning AshB
and 4th Amendment.


They siezed her.....permanently


Correct.


Thats brilliant. Did you think of that one yourself? Anytime anyone is killed by law enforcement regardless of whether or not it was justified violates a person's 4th amendment rights. Wonder why that argument is never used in court. Maybe because its really stupid and only a moron would think of it.


Let’s hear the break down you Biden loving fugk.

PS-You are dumber than dog schit. And Jackson.

LOl


what is there to break down? The 4th amendment doesn't apply to storming the capitol and busting through barricades that protect elected officials. Do you know why her family isn't sueing on the grounds that her 4th amendment rights were violated? Because its stupid.



Jim,

Thank you so much for admitting you’re a dumb fugk.

LOL


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

So articulate ....



We need to consider bottom-feeder Flav never
attained the level of education that would enable
him to articulate matters of Law in an appropriate
and coherent fashion to any reasonable degree.

His bragging high point in life is that he has
arrested people , yet there are ordinary good
folk out there who have effected Citizen Arrests
without beating their chests about it.


Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
So let's look at this through Graham v Connor.


Flav. harps on about 4th Amendment but never
once cared to mentioned Graham Vs Connor.

the fact he accepted it was a Legal shoot based
on what someone on the CF vaguely told him about
Capitol Police Policy ...is truelly cringeworthy.




Stinkstar,

You did a great job of affirming what you don’t know.

Extra points to me for getting you to admit it.

LOL


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Simple Jack. LOL


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Thought I would pop some popcorn and bump this back to the top. Raining here and bored.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Starman

If Trump was there with those other elected
officials, are you OK with LE capping someone's
ass with a backpack(possible IED and hidden weapons)
after defying LE commands while trying to force their
way where they clearly know they shouldn't ?


I don’t know the SOP’s for the White House or the Capitol Building.


chronic Flav. F•A•I•L

SOP has nothing to do with determining if Deadly Force
was Legally justified with AshB.

The law judges LE actions in Use of Force under
Fourth Amendment ~ objective reasonableness standard ~
(1985 SCOTUS Graham v. Connor.)
Legal Std. is not based on any LE agencies policy or procedure
FLETC informs all who pass through on that important fact..
and that includes Capitol Police.

And there can be range of LE responses (to
felony activity) that are deemed acceptable.
An officer is not necessarily required to use
the least force or avoid using Deadly Force.
Totality of Circumstance needs to be factored.
ie: task at hand , nature of threat , window of
time , avail. manpower , avail information ,etc...
So...it is not strictly carved in stone as to how
an officer may be required to respond without
the benefit of "20/20 hindsight"
..and that is
how the Law views it..what the officer had to
deal with at the time with what he had...not
what is known after the fact.

Which means citing or knowing LE Policy or
Procedure is irrelevant to all except bonehead
CF tards.


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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Starman

If Trump was there with those other elected
officials, are you OK with LE capping someone's
ass with a backpack(possible IED and hidden weapons)
after defying LE commands while trying to force their
way where they clearly know they shouldn't ?


I don’t know the SOP’s for the White House or the Capitol Building.


chronic Flav. F•A•I•L

SOP has nothing to do with determining if Deadly Force
was Legally justified with AshB.

The law judges LE actions in Use of Force under
Fourth Amendment ~ objective reasonableness standard ~
(1985 SCOTUS Graham v. Connor.)
Legal Standard is not based on any LE agencies policy or procedure
FLETC informs all who pass through on that important fact...and
that includes Capitol Police.

And there can be range of LE responses (to
felony activity) that are deemed acceptable.
An officer is not necessarily required to use
the least force or avoid using Deadly Force.
Totality of Circumstance needs to be factored.
ie: task at hand , nature of threat , window of
time , avail. manpower , avail information ,etc...
So...it is not strictly carved in stone as to how
an officer may be required to respond without
the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. ..and that is
how the Law views it..what the officer had to
deal with at the time with what he had...not
what is known after the fact.

Which means citing or knowing LE Policy or
Procedure is irrelevant to all except bonehead
CF tards.



Stink Star,

Maybe you can find a picture of the cover of their Use of Force manual?

You dumb bitch.

LOL


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by oldtimer303

Was it justified?


If justified why?



Trump praised LE efforts at the Capitol
calling them heroic true Americans.

So in his mind a good shoot.

I'd say he was much better briefed on the
matter than anyone here.



Stink Star is REALLY struggling with this one.

LMAO


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Flav.returns like a dog returns to its own vomit... grin

If ya don't like the AshB shoot take it up with Trump..!



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Originally Posted by Starman
Flav.returns like a dog returns to its own vomit... grin



Are you saying that you're vomit?


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Bottom feeding types like Flav can't cope
with failure hence why alcohol plays such
large part in their life..

good thing when you are at the bottom you
dont have far to fall.


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Originally Posted by Starman
Bottom feeding types like Flav can't cope
with failure hence why alcohol plays such
large part in their life..

good thing when you are at the bottom you
dont have far to fall.


Do you even know what you're arguing?


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Flav - but judge I was only following Police
policy and procedure ..

Judge - That's not how the Law works son.

Flav - but judge I was only following Police
policy and procedure ..

etc, etc, etc.


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Originally Posted by Starman
Flav - but judge I was only following Police
policy and procedure ..

Judge - That's not how the Law works son.

Flav - but judge I was only following Police
policy and procedure ..

etc , etc, etc.


Damn.

You really are stupid.

LOL


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Spew up your LE Policy and Procedure argument
nonsense crap again, its doing you wonders ...






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