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Re: Canada Fishing Trip abbydog #15861835 03/04/21
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,520 Likes: 4 MarineHawk Campfire Regular
MarineHawk Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,520 Likes: 4	Back in May 2018, I went to Lac Carriere in the La Verendrye Wildlife Reserve. We camped at Lac Carriere and fished that one by boat, along with the connecting lakes Nardin, Nollette, and Hope. https://www.sepaq.com/rf/lvy/information.dot?language_id=1 It’s only about a three-hour drive from Montreal, so, not far from the NY border. It’s not fly-in remote, but we were the only ones around. Caught lots of walleye and pike: Lots of room to camp: We brought everything, including the kitchen sink: Gotta portage the boats about 40 ft to get to connecting lakes:

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Re: Canada Fishing Trip Steve Redgwell #15862066 03/04/21
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario H hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn
hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn H Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario	Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell Originally Posted by hoytcanon The Northern Pike slot in most of the province North of the French River, is six pike total, only two of which can be over 24" and only one of those can be over 34"... so you are still allowed trophy fish... and if you like eating pike (and I do), I can assure you a single day limit nets (pun intended) a whole whack of boneless fillets... and if they aren't boneless your fish station guy needs a lesson. In the spring, when they go into the shallows, you can quickly and easily catch your limit. I am not a fan, but like pickerel. Sometimes, when fishing for them, you end up catching a good number of pike. We alwys used to end up searching for water that was moving a little faster. That isn't always easy to do, if you aren't rom the area. By the time walleye season opens the pike are out of the shallows and setting up on ambush structure or suspended and feeding on pelagic species. Regardless, they are very good eating. When you say "pickerel" I assume you mean walleye... chain pickerel are a close relative of northern pike, so if you don't like pike, you won't like pickerel.

Re: Canada Fishing Trip hoytcanon #15862095 03/04/21
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,728 Ontario, Canada S Steve Redgwell Campfire Outfitter
Steve Redgwell Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,728 Ontario, Canada	Yes, but the two co-exist in many northern lakes and rivers, depending on structure. Growing up, no one called pickerel, walleyes. In fact, I never heard the name 'walleye' until I read that in US magazines. That would be sometime in the mid 60s. I spent much of my youth in the Sudbury area. Specifically, we lived off 17 between Sudbury and N. Bay. Pickerel taste different. I don't care for pike. Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.com Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada

Re: Canada Fishing Trip MarineHawk #15862213 03/04/21
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wabigoon Campfire Kahuna W Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 60,847 Likes: 10 Iowa/NW Ontario	Hawk, like those PFD's! These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"

Re: Canada Fishing Trip Steve Redgwell #15862283 03/04/21
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario H hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn
hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn H Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario	Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell Yes, but the two co-exist in many northern lakes and rivers, depending on structure. Growing up, no one called pickerel, walleyes. In fact, I never heard the name 'walleye' until I read that in US magazines. That would be sometime in the mid 60s. I spent much of my youth in the Sudbury area. Specifically, we lived off 17 between Sudbury and N. Bay. Pickerel taste different. I don't care for pike. Yes, the two coexist in most lakes, but the two are pike and walleye, not pike and pickerel.... I grew up in.Sudbury too and even though "pickerel" was a slang term used regularly, most knew that they were actually walleye, particularly because the regulations refer to them as "walleye" in the seasons and limits. I beg to differ on the flavour of pike vs walleye, I would take a 2-3 pound walleye over pike perhaps, but walleye over four pounds can have a "muddy" flavour that pike never have, regardless of how big they get. I would take a big pike over a big walleye any day for the shore lunch.

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Re: Canada Fishing Trip abbydog #15862306 03/04/21
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,728 Ontario, Canada S Steve Redgwell Campfire Outfitter
Steve Redgwell Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,728 Ontario, Canada	So we agree then. There are pike and there are pickerel. They taste different. There are no such things as walleye. Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.com Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada

Re: Canada Fishing Trip hoytcanon #15862322 03/04/21
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 18,667 Likes: 1 S sse Campfire Ranger
sse Campfire Ranger S Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 18,667 Likes: 1	Originally Posted by hoytcanon Hello, sir... I guide for Camp Esnagi in Northern Ontario, widely recognized as one of the best walleye pike fisheries in Ontario... the lake is 27 miles long and pristine wilderness. It is a remote access lake, so you have to either fly in or train in from Sudbury or White River, Ontario... I would recommend the train from Sudbury as the train ride is.a nice experience in itself. The lodge has top notch facilities and new boats with 25 hp Yamaha 4-stroke motors... I guarantee that you will love the experience. Google, "Camp Esnagi." This is all pending the USA/CDN border opening for tourism travel. Take care and have a great trip regardless of where you go. Greg. do you have depart at Sudbury or can you hop on the train somewhere near the Soo, or parts west? never mind, just checked the map Last edited by sse; 03/04/21.

Re: Canada Fishing Trip abbydog #15862501 03/04/21
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 42,005 Likes: 1 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana
New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 42,005 Likes: 1 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario	Yeah, we catch some decent snot rockets; But prefer, nice fat walleye ! Paul. "Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"

Re: Canada Fishing Trip hoytcanon #15862532 03/04/21
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 42,005 Likes: 1 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana
New_2_99s Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 42,005 Likes: 1 Huntn/Fishn Heaven-NW Ontario	Eaten a ton of large walleye, never had one taste like mud ! Paul. "Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"

Re: Canada Fishing Trip New_2_99s #15862695 03/04/21
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,807 The Palmetto State C cra1948 Campfire Outfitter
cra1948 Campfire Outfitter C Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,807 The Palmetto State	Originally Posted by New_2_99s Eaten a ton of large walleye, never had one taste like mud ! So have I and I don’t think I ever had a walleye that wasn’t good. Pike, on the other hand, I don’t care for, period. Maybe I ate too many growing up. I grew up in sight of Brockville, Ontario, and we always called walleye “pickerel” even though we knew better. Mathew 22: 37-39

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Re: Canada Fishing Trip abbydog #15862799 03/04/21
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 60,847 Likes: 10 Iowa/NW Ontario W wabigoon Campfire Kahuna
wabigoon Campfire Kahuna W Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 60,847 Likes: 10 Iowa/NW Ontario	I'm looking forward to the next trip! These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"

Re: Canada Fishing Trip abbydog #15862808 03/04/21
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 18,667 Likes: 1 S sse Campfire Ranger
sse Campfire Ranger S Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 18,667 Likes: 1	i've eaten pike i pulled thru the ice, no problems

Re: Canada Fishing Trip Steve Redgwell #15862810 03/04/21
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario H hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn
hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn H Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario	Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell So we agree then. There are pike and there are pickerel. They taste different. There are no such things as walleye. Uhmmm... if you say so... you are pretty stuck on your slang, so let's go with that... so we agree the taste differential is marginal and big pike taste better than big "pickerel."

Re: Canada Fishing Trip New_2_99s #15862832 03/04/21
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario H hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn
hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn H Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario	Originally Posted by New_2_99s Eaten a ton of large walleye, never had one taste like mud ! I have spent more than 5 decades in walleye heartland, and eaten so much walleye my ribs turned yellow and my eyes shine in the dark... I am sure you can taste the difference between a sweet 2 pounder and a 6 or 7 pounder, just referring to that difference as "muddy," I am not saying they taste like mud... but I definitely stand by the preference for a big pike over a big walleye, but since that is entirely subjective it is not something worth arguing about, just my opinion.

Re: Canada Fishing Trip abbydog #15862839 03/04/21
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,728 Ontario, Canada S Steve Redgwell Campfire Outfitter
Steve Redgwell Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,728 Ontario, Canada	Almost. Pike bad. Pickerel good. You'll understand one day. Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.com Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada

Re: Canada Fishing Trip sse #15862854 03/04/21
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario H hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn
hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn H Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario	Originally Posted by sse Originally Posted by hoytcanon Hello, sir... I guide for Camp Esnagi in Northern Ontario, widely recognized as one of the best walleye pike fisheries in Ontario... the lake is 27 miles long and pristine wilderness. It is a remote access lake, so you have to either fly in or train in from Sudbury or White River, Ontario... I would recommend the train from Sudbury as the train ride is.a nice experience in itself. The lodge has top notch facilities and new boats with 25 hp Yamaha 4-stroke motors... I guarantee that you will love the experience. Google, "Camp Esnagi." This is all pending the USA/CDN border opening for tourism travel. Take care and have a great trip regardless of where you go. Greg. do you have depart at Sudbury or can you hop on the train somewhere near the Soo, or parts west? never mind, just checked the map At any rate, it is a superb lake and fishery, top notch accommodations and service... we have folks who have been coming for 20+ years... I am certain you would enjoy the trip, but Canada is a big place with lots of options... I wish you all the best regardless of where you go. Take care and good fishing!

Re: Canada Fishing Trip Steve Redgwell #15862856 03/04/21
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario H hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn
hoytcanon Campfire Greenhorn H Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 90 Northern Ontario	Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell Almost. Pike bad. Pickerel good. You'll understand one day. I understand what you understand.

Re: Canada Fishing Trip abbydog #15862858 03/04/21
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wabigoon Campfire Kahuna W Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 60,847 Likes: 10 Iowa/NW Ontario	I've fished NW Ontario 73 years man, and boy. As much good as the fishing is, all the friends I've/we've made over the years is a greater pleasure. These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"

Re: Canada Fishing Trip abbydog #15862859 03/04/21
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Nollij Campfire Regular N Joined: Feb 2021 Posts: 1,418 Wright County, MN	It is always interesting to hear the different regional names/nicknames for fish. We never called them Pike. They're Northerns, Scissorbills, Hammer Handles, and Jack Fish to name a few. My Grandfather called Northerns "pickerels". Walleyes are walleyes, or sometimes marble eyes. Never had a bad walleye. Northerns out of a clear, spring fed lake with a good food base(tullibees) are as good as any walleye to me. "Their minds are dead" - Carmine Ricca

Re: Canada Fishing Trip hoytcanon #15862877 03/04/21
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,728 Ontario, Canada S Steve Redgwell Campfire Outfitter
Steve Redgwell Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,728 Ontario, Canada	Originally Posted by hoytcanon Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell Almost. Pike bad. Pickerel good. You'll understand one day. I understand what you understand. No. I don't think you ever will. 😆 Originally Posted by Nollij It is always interesting to hear the different regional names/nicknames for fish. It is. We called them northerns too. Hammer handles were small, immature pike. Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.com Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada

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