Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Why no 243??

First, I love the 308 as a hunting round but the 6.5 CM beats it without beating on you. If I didn't have a 1000 yard range, I'd not own one but it sure is nice to hit a 1000 yard plate all afternoon and not be sore or shell shocked. It's just easy to shoot and has good barrel life.

Fair points above. The 6.5 CM appears to be a great round. I just haven't been shooting out to 1,000 yds. If I did, I likely would take one of my potent long-action rifles.

For what I do, if I had a good-shooting 6.5 CM, I wouldn't feel the need to get a .308, but I think the opposite also is true.

I remember seeing a small stack of these at the Indy 1500 gun show back in the day. I remember thinking I needed one but something shiny distracted me. I could say I wish I had bought the lot but I’m sure I would have traded them for something stupid back then.

I know psa had uppers at one point, even 708 uppers

MarineHawk, you are not getting the point. If you use your "potent long-action rifles", they are going to beat you up. The beauty in the creedmoor is you can extend your range sessions. Hence, more practice. Even compared to the 308win, it has very light recoil and you can shoot it all day long. That is the point. You are also veering way off the subject matter at hand, by suggesting you'd use a bigger heavier cartridge. Are you suggesting you have an AR10 chambered in 300wm or something? Remember we are talking AR10 rifles chambered in 243 and why you don't see a lot of them. One guy mentioned the 6.5 creedmoor overshadowing it and that is a very true statement. I know guys have mentioned the creedmoor beating the 308w AR10 out to 1,000 + yards, but the simple fact that it allows you to get more practice in at any range is a highly desirable trait. Like I've said before, your LR 308 is a nice one and it is light, probably great for hunting even, but it's not going to compete with something like my performance center 6.5. Not at 100, 400, 600 or even 1000 yards. Just not going to happen. Your best bet in the longrange game would be the heavy azzed juggernaut like tyrone suggested, but its going to beat you up. You aren't going to want to shoot 200 rounds in a day with your lightweight DPMS LR 308, trust me..

My .308 semi-auto just doesn't beat me or anyone up. It's a child's toy. I've shot 20 rounds in a few seconds. It's nothing. I don't shoot 200 rounds in a day at 1,000 yards. If you do, I defer to you. But a semi-auto .308 ain't gonna beat me up with 200 rounds. I can barely feel my .308 after shooting for a while.

Didnt Remington offer the R10 in 243 WIN?

We have plates every 100 yards except for 800 and a dualing tree of sorts at 400. We get caught up in shooting here and there and before we know it, we’re out of ammo. It ain’t hard to do.

This is the 1000 yard plates looking back to that little spec that is our shooting bench. The wind can blow 3 different directions at once here. High BC bullets make it easier. Without thinking about burning my barrel up, I brought my 22-250AI up there with 75 Amax’s and got my rear handed to me by two 6.5CM shooters. I bought a 6.5CM the next week. Chronographed some factory 147 grain ammo at barely 2500 FPS in my 18” barrel and thought no way it’ll make it up the hill. Figured the dope and started hitting the plates. Made hits through the wind that blew the 75 Amax who knows where. It just freaking works.

Is it better than the 308? Considering the 308 goes transonic around 850-900 yards, I’d say maybe for this game.

Sorry for getting off topic, the 243 is great but my buddy has one and he also bought a 6.5CM...

I shoot with a lot of guys too. See some of the same things you do. We shoot steel at a private range. Even out to just 500 yards there, the 6.5 cm rivals the competition. I'm not saying this because I don't like 308win or I like man buns or anything, but as you say, when/if you get your azz handed to you, you start to learn real quick what works and what doesn't. Even at 500 yards, guys shooting 308's and 300wm's, just don't make the consistent hits on steel that the 6.5 does. I'll hit a 2" plate at 400 yards consistently 80% of the time. Some guys have yet to even hit it once with their big magnums, and that is only 400 yards. At 500 yards, I can only hit it 1/2 the time.

I really don’t see much difference till 900 yards, my 22-250AI will make hits pretty easy out to 700 but up on the hill the wind is crazy and that’s where we see the big difference.

The lowly 223 is pretty consistent out to 500 yards but 600 is a different animal. Though after shooting long for awhile, 300 yards with a red dot seems easy. That’s why I love this range. My friend let me hang some steel here and we’ve just added to it. I’ve learned so much from this that I would’ve never thought about otherwise.

But if I were shooting only to 5 or 600 yards, I doubt I could tell much difference between the 243, 6.5 or 308.

What the OP seems to be missing is that just because the local gunshop doesn't stock something, doesn't mean it isn't available. They can't carry everything but they sure can order it. In fact, since he specifically mentions uppers, he can order it himself.

NO, What the orignal poster was "missing" was that I was thinking a bolt action and AR in same caliber, Love my 243, but idiot me was looking at AR-15 Uppers. NOT Ar-10.

Thank you for trying to speak for me, I appreciate it,

A shoulder injury will argue that there is plenty of difference between the 90gr .243 and the 168gr .308 recoil.

Because manufactures are stuck on the 1 in 10" twist on most, but put 1 in 8" or 9" on the 6mmm Creedmoor.

I had one that shot patterns with anything bigger than 95gr