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So . . . Will the bullet manufacturers be working in
unison with the toilet paper manufacturers?
Or will the hoarders still screw things up regardless
of what everyone else does?
I've read of ten thousand other people that have
witnessed the people in line at sunrise to dash in
the store and buy their limit, but I still have people
call me the worst kind of blankety blanking liar
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Interesting. Sierra Bullets now owns Barnes. I wonder if Sierra will be selling direct.
Seems like a trend. Hodgdon started selling their powder direct to consumer just before this current crunch, but there was no cost savings to the consumer. This, Ishoog a lot of serria and barnes both but ..
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If people stop paying scalping prices.... ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Problem is... You got a ton of folks that buy just enough bullets for hunting. You know. 1 shot to check scope.... They don’t care if a box of ammo is $60-80. Yeah I personally know of several who struggle to find ammo then go do magazine dumps, then turn around and boo hoo that they can't find ammo Oh well
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Good, too many middle men jacking up the price anyway! That’s adorable that you think the price will be less with direct sales. Yep. They aren't going to cut the throats of their wholesalers for a schmuck who might buy a couple thousand in a lifetime. They will look at what scalpers are getting, and base off that. And I don't blame them. I'll be dipped if I was a legitimate business and I'd let these Asshats get away with 400% profits when I couldn't get a 50% markup in normal times.
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I don't care what they do as long as they keep making the 30cal 168 ttsx
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Does Barnes manufacture their ammo in-house?
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So if they don’t regulate what a person can buy in a time frame ? How is this going to stop hoarding ?
Seems to me if they don’t regulate sales per customer they will still be tasked with demand and accomplish nothing but fugging the LGS and putting the retail in their pocket .
Or am I missing something ?
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Barnes, the company that backed a lead bullet ban. That movement got a lot of traction in the BHA circles. This
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All manufacturers should have added more scalability to their production lines. After at least 4 runs in a dozen yesrs you might notice a pattern. They don't want to add equipment because as soon as they get it online the rush ends. Seems it would pay to have a couple of lines on standby. Equipment could be paid off pretty quick selling direct at current prices. When it slows back down mothball it until the next run.
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sierra sells a better bullet than barnes to
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All manufacturers should have added more scalability to their production lines. After at least 4 runs in a dozen yesrs you might notice a pattern. They don't want to add equipment because as soon as they get it online the rush ends. Seems it would pay to have a couple of lines on standby. Equipment could be paid off pretty quick selling direct at current prices. When it slows back down mothball it until the next run.
Bb They still have to pay property tax on the equipment even if it isn't running. Some of that stuff doesn't do well just sitting, it's meant to be running.
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i think all ammo mfg's need to double or triple their prices to suppliers so when a box of 9mm hits the shelves, it has a 30-40 dollar price tag on it. that will stop these scalping fuuckers cold. So then the ammo mfg's will be doing the scalping instead.
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Catch me up on this.....
Why can't they sell direct?
Is it an issue with gov law/illegal or a contract issue with current companies they do business with?
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All manufacturers should have added more scalability to their production lines. After at least 4 runs in a dozen yesrs you might notice a pattern. They don't want to add equipment because as soon as they get it online the rush ends. Seems it would pay to have a couple of lines on standby. Equipment could be paid off pretty quick selling direct at current prices. When it slows back down mothball it until the next run.
Bb I took a tour of the Sierra plant about 10 years ago. They have that place set up in a way that streamlines production and I've seen many manufacturing facilities that are not nearly as good. They will be good for anyone buying Barnes bullets. They have since expanded since my tour. To say I went away impressed is an understatement
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Barnes, the company that backed a lead bullet ban. That movement got a lot of traction in the BHA circles. This I agree but Barnes is a different company under new ownership now. Great product and I’m sure the new owners wouldn’t want to ban lead bullets.
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Barnes, the company that backed a lead bullet ban. That movement got a lot of traction in the BHA circles. This I agree but Barnes is a different company under new ownership now. Great product and I’m sure the new owners wouldn’t want to ban lead bullets. I’m behind. I ignored Barnes news since the anti-lead push. Another form of gun control. Sierra I am down with. Great product, have never been disappointed.
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Usually, when manufacturers start selling direct after years (or decades) of only selling through distribution/retailers, they set a price on the website that will be called "MSRP" - Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price". It is NOT going to be the price that Bass Pro and MidwayUSA pay for the product, it will be more. It is usually set so that a retailer can sell at that (or a lower) price, and still make a reasonable profit.
I imagine you will see prices on the Barnes site very similar to what you see at the online retailers and at the big box sporting goods stores. The Ma & Pa shops will be higher, but they usually are higher than the big retailers anyway, because they aren't ordering several million bullets at a time like Grafs and Midsouth do so they don't get the same discount off MSRP.
Until the supply can match the demand, you won't see any better availability (or pricing). But you will at least have another outlet to turn to when looking for options.
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sierra sells a better bullet than barnes to
That’s hilarious. For prairie dogs and paper, probably.
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Just a thought.
Not spreading it on FB might be a good idea...
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But you will at least have another outlet to turn to when looking for options. This is all I really care about!
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