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Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Seems everyone is making a 365 competitor now. So we have the following

Springfield Hellcat
M&P Shield Plus
Ruger Max9
Glock 48/43x with Shield S15 mags
Sccy DVG
Taurus G3C Toro

Am I missing any from that list?

the SIG 365 is a CZ 75Dpcr competitor.


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finally got to handle one, I like it but they will have to come down in price before I bite. Paid 250 from psa for my gen 1 shield, after taxes and transfer. I think I have 290ish in it. My lgs wanted 529 for the shield plus the other day.

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Got mine last week. Mine came with factory night sights and three mags (They normally come with two), but I paid standard price for it, so I'm assuming the sales clerk screwed up. I hope he doesn't get into trouble for it, but I'm not going back with the extra $100.00 in hand to make up the difference. A deal's a deal.

I shot 150 rounds of S&B 115 grain FMJ and 25 rounds of 124 grain Gold Dot through it. Flawless function (no surprise). I like it.


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PS I didn't realize I had the Night Sight version till I got it home. I didn't even know they offered them with factory tritium night sights and an extra mag.


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Originally Posted by killerv
finally got to handle one, I like it but they will have to come down in price before I bite. Paid 250 from psa for my gen 1 shield, after taxes and transfer. I think I have 290ish in it. My lgs wanted 529 for the shield plus the other day.


Sounds like it is priced competitively with the other popular 9 mm's from Sig, Glock, Springfield, ect. The Gen 1 Shield was heavily discounted after the 2.0 version was introduced. I wouldn't expect this new high capacity 2.0 Plus version to sell close to the price of the older Gen 1 guns.


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Originally Posted by UNCCGrad
Seems everyone is making a 365 competitor now. So we have the following

Springfield Hellcat
M&P Shield Plus
Ruger Max9
Glock 48/43x with Shield S15 mags
Sccy DVG
Taurus G3C Toro

Am I missing any from that list?
Well, you have to go where the market takes you. The 365 was a breakthrough design and everyone is following.

I had a chance to shoot the Taurus Toro; I was impressed. Taurus seems to really have it together these days in their auto pistols.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Got mine last week. Mine came with factory night sights and three mags (They normally come with two), but I paid standard price for it, so I'm assuming the sales clerk screwed up. I hope he doesn't get into trouble for it, but I'm not going back with the extra $100.00 in hand to make up the difference. A deal's a deal.

I shot 150 rounds of S&B 115 grain FMJ and 25 rounds of 124 grain Gold Dot through it. Flawless function (no surprise). I like it.


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Nice! I think I am going to run a XS Big Dot front and rear sight on mine.

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Originally Posted by smallfry
Nice! I think I am going to run a XS Big Dot front and rear sight on mine.

Had those on my Ruger LC9S Pro. Wasn't crazy about them. If I got mine without factory tritium night sights, I'd buy a set of AmeriGlo Hackathorns.


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My only complaint is that the rough, sandpaper-like, texture on the grips makes initial grip acquisition a little slower from the draw. When the grips are a bit smoother, you can slide your hand right into a proper grip with ease before you begin to draw. With the rough texture on the grips, you really have to apply some significant downward force to defeat the friction in order to get a full and proper grip in advance of the draw. It's a training issue that can be overcome, but it's a legitimate complaint. Of course, it's made up for somewhat by the superior grip retention under recoil, even with wet hands.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by smallfry
Nice! I think I am going to run a XS Big Dot front and rear sight on mine.

Had those on my Ruger LC9S Pro. Wasn't crazy about them. If I got mine without factory tritium night sights, I'd buy a set of AmeriGlo Hackathorns.

What don’t you like about them?

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The makes me want to find a first edition M&P40C and belt-sander the pointless rail off it.


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Originally Posted by smallfry
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Nice! I think I am going to run a XS Big Dot front and rear sight on mine.

Had those on my Ruger LC9S Pro. Wasn't crazy about them. If I got mine without factory tritium night sights, I'd buy a set of AmeriGlo Hackathorns.

What don’t you like about them?

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Hard to put my finger on it. I do really like bright orange on the front sight, though, rather than plain white.


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Do you know where to snag some extra magazines? grin

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Hope it serves you well. I like my mc1sc mossberg cause it's slim and shoots like a bigger gun. Far as capacity it's nice to have.


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Originally Posted by killerv
I'll probably have to get one, I love my 1st gen shield.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/mp-shield-plus



I bought a first generation shield for $199 when they had a lot of sales and $50 rebates from S&W. Best $200 I ever spent on a handgun. I carry a Sig 365XL daily, but can't help to think that the Shield Plus would be just as nice to carry and they shoot so well. Well made pistols for the money. I like the option of the manual safety with the Sigs and the S&W Shields, first generation anyway. Don't know if the newer ones are available with manual safety.

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Originally Posted by smallfry
Do you know where to snag some extra magazines? grin

Tried everywhere. No one has any. In a month or two, they might start trickling in to Midway and Brownells.


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Originally Posted by ChuckKY
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I'll probably have to get one, I love my 1st gen shield.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/mp-shield-plus



I bought a first generation shield for $199 when they had a lot of sales and $50 rebates from S&W. Best $200 I ever spent on a handgun. I carry a Sig 365XL daily, but can't help to think that the Shield Plus would be just as nice to carry and they shoot so well. Well made pistols for the money. I like the option of the manual safety with the Sigs and the S&W Shields, first generation anyway. Don't know if the newer ones are available with manual safety.

Yes, they are available with a manual safety, but I requested one without one.


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A major upgrade in round count that fits in my current holster. What’s not to like?


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by killerv
I'll probably have to get one, I love my 1st gen shield.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/mp-shield-plus



I bought a first generation shield for $199 when they had a lot of sales and $50 rebates from S&W. Best $200 I ever spent on a handgun. I carry a Sig 365XL daily, but can't help to think that the Shield Plus would be just as nice to carry and they shoot so well. Well made pistols for the money. I like the option of the manual safety with the Sigs and the S&W Shields, first generation anyway. Don't know if the newer ones are available with manual safety.

Yes, they are available with a manual safety, but I requested one without one.


Very good business strategy on their part. No matter where you opinion falls about a manual safety, they have a model just for you.

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Originally Posted by ChuckKY

Very good business strategy on their part. No matter where you opinion falls about a manual safety, they have a model just for you.

Maybe, but they're as useless as tits on a bull, as far as I'm concerned.


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