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It’s the ‘third rail’ of politics.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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Everyone should earn a living doing productive work.
There should be ample opportunities for everybody except the severely handicapped to work and to earn a fair living, but what about encroaching computerization, where jobs once performed by people are no longer an option?
What happens when there are simply not enough jobs for humans?
What is to be done? Stop the reproduction of non productive humans? That's one option.
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I expect mine to be taken away. David, my dear mother told me in the early 60's to not count on it. Recently I heard SS was going to be eleminated and seniors are going to receive $5,000 per month. Most rumors don't happen. How much of that would they take back in taxes?
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
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It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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How many think they going to get $5,000 per month instead of SS payment? Huh? $5k a month instead of my SS check? Where do I sign up? Will I have to get a "mark" though? You know, one of those beastly ones?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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How many think they going to get $5,000 per month instead of SS payment? Huh? $5k a month instead of my SS check? Where do I sign up? Will I have to get a "mark" though? You know, one of those beastly ones? Mark me! Mark me! 
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Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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I expect mine to be taken away. David, my dear mother told me in the early 60's to not count on it. Recently I heard SS was going to be eleminated and seniors are going to receive $5,000 per month. Most rumors don't happen. Do you have a link, a reference to where you heard that "rumor".\?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Don't think much about it and, frankly never planned for it. This. We planned our retirement based upon not getting it. If we do, it's just gravy. I did too, but then things started hitting from all sides in 2007 and have continued to some degree or another. Without SS I'd be up a schidt creek now. Seems I kinda remember hearing way back in the olden days, that's kinda why SS got started.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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It’s the ‘third rail’ of politics. This...
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Have not considered SS as money needed when time to quit working. Don't know why anyone would do it. While it would suck for folks that have paid in all of those years not to get their 12.00 dollars a month might break them. Snork 
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Just applied for SS. First check coming next month. Figured I'd get what's coming to me before it's gone, hell I paid into it for decades.
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Don't think much about it and, frankly never planned for it. This. We planned our retirement based upon not getting it. If we do, it's just gravy. I did too, but then things started hitting from all sides in 2007 and have continued to some degree or another. Without SS I'd be up a schidt creek now. Seems I kinda remember hearing way back in the olden days, that's kinda why SS got started. The origin was because back then men tended to marry younger women. The male life expectancy was under 65 and there were large numbers of destitute widows. SS was created initially to help them.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
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It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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Just applied for SS. First check coming next month. Figured I'd get what's coming to me before it's gone, hell I paid into it for decades.
Now, what kind of thinking is that?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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How many think they going to get $5,000 per month instead of SS payment? Huh? $5k a month instead of my SS check? Where do I sign up? Will I have to get a "mark" though? You know, one of those beastly ones? Nah, just that after taxes the 5K is $1,900 and inflation will kick that in the pants....
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Just applied for SS. First check coming next month. Figured I'd get what's coming to me before it's gone, hell I paid into it for decades.
Now, what kind of thinking is that? Everybody's got it coming.
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Everyone should earn a living doing productive work.
There should be ample opportunities for everybody except the severely handicapped to work and to earn a fair living, but what about encroaching computerization, where jobs once performed by people are no longer an option?
What happens when there are simply not enough jobs for humans?
What is to be done? Those in power are going to clear the decks by killing people. It will start by first inflation, then shortages (water and food), then disrupt the supply of life saving drugs like insulin or heart failure drugs or COPD inhalers. Epidemics. Who knows, this COVID vaccine maybe the method. The Regressives, Nazis, and Commies have always gotten rid of excess population. Hell, in this country FDR did everything he could to get in on WW2. WW2 set population back multiples of millions and we could of sat out both WW1 and 2.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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Just applied for SS. First check coming next month. Figured I'd get what's coming to me before it's gone, hell I paid into it for decades.
Now, what kind of thinking is that? Everybody's got it coming. Yes, or so they say. Some of us paid into it for 50 or so years though. I prefer to use mine up instead of leaving it there for someone who hasn't.
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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Everyone should earn a living doing productive work.
There should be ample opportunities for everybody except the severely handicapped to work and to earn a fair living, but what about encroaching computerization, where jobs once performed by people are no longer an option?
What happens when there are simply not enough jobs for humans?
What is to be done? Those in power are going to clear the decks by killing people. It will start by first inflation, then shortages (water and food), then disrupt the supply of life saving drugs like insulin or heart failure drugs or COPD inhalers. Epidemics. Who knows, this COVID vaccine maybe the method. The Regressives, Nazis, and Commies have always gotten rid of excess population. Hell, in this country FDR did everything he could to get in on WW2. WW2 set population back multiples of millions and we could of sat out both WW1 and 2. What about the consumer base? The machines can churn out an unlimited supply of goods, provide all the services....but given a major cull, there are not enough consumers keeping the economy afloat?
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Just applied for SS. First check coming next month. Figured I'd get what's coming to me before it's gone, hell I paid into it for decades.
Now, what kind of thinking is that? Everybody's got it coming. Yes, or so they say. Some of us paid into it for 50 or so years though. I prefer to use mine up instead of leaving it there for someone who hasn't. You do realize it's been spent about twenty times over and used up? Ain't leaving anything....
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Everyone should earn a living doing productive work.
There should be ample opportunities for everybody except the severely handicapped to work and to earn a fair living, but what about encroaching computerization, where jobs once performed by people are no longer an option?
What happens when there are simply not enough jobs for humans?
What is to be done? Those in power are going to clear the decks by killing people. It will start by first inflation, then shortages (water and food), then disrupt the supply of life saving drugs like insulin or heart failure drugs or COPD inhalers. Epidemics. Who knows, this COVID vaccine maybe the method. The Regressives, Nazis, and Commies have always gotten rid of excess population. Hell, in this country FDR did everything he could to get in on WW2. WW2 set population back multiples of millions and we could of sat out both WW1 and 2. What about the consumer base? The machines can churn out an unlimited supply of goods, provide all the services....but given a major cull, there are not enough consumers keeping the economy afloat? Some seem to forget that the rich got that way from having a lot of consumers around to buy their cheaply made goods at a price the wages they were paying their consumers allowed them to make a profit. I think it might be called something like................................Capitalism? Stasis or retraction is not very profit oriented in most cases.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Just applied for SS. First check coming next month. Figured I'd get what's coming to me before it's gone, hell I paid into it for decades.
Now, what kind of thinking is that? Everybody's got it coming. Yes, or so they say. Some of us paid into it for 50 or so years though. I prefer to use mine up instead of leaving it there for someone who hasn't. You do realize it's been spent about twenty times over and used up? Ain't leaving anything.... Only through mismanagement. Shall I leave "my share" there for them to send to some scheidthole country in an aid package?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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