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No. I come here to read and post, but believe very little of what I read. This site has changed markedly since 2001.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
No. I come here to read and post, but believe very little of what I read. This site has changed markedly since 2001.


In an earlier post you said you dont find anything of value to read here. The obvious question to that is why do you come here then? Internet forums are much like hunting camps in the bush, you never know who or how qualified someone might be. My advice would be to keep an open mind and consider all angles, and guard yourself against those thoughts that you are the sharpest knife in the drawer.

There are a lot of very very qualified doctors and scientists who completely disagree with your assessment of the virus. So many in fact, that its becoming a tidal wave. This is something we have never seen before in medicine, and its quite obvious that the government along with MSM and big tech are censoring these people heavily. That alone should make anyone ask a few questions.

IMO this doctor does a great job of answering a lot of those questions.

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I did not say that. I said,

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...I do not consider much of what I read on this site to be of value. The reason is that no one is qualified to speak definitively about the matter.

In short, most love to proselytize, but no one is credentialled.


I read and make a judgment.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
No. I come here to read and post, but believe very little of what I read. This site has changed markedly since 2001.


Actually you did say exactly that

Neither are you ‘credentialed’ ,but you place a lot of value on your viewpoint and , it seems, very little on any one else

Keep an open mind is very good advice as per above.

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No, I did not. I said that I believe little of what I read here.

I always keep an open mind. I said,

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I read and make a judgment.


If my mind was closed, I wouldn't bother reading. It seems that some people are ticked if I choose to make up my own mind.


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So you do know then that if we actually thought covid was serious that cloth masks and using them and such over and over would get you covid or dead?

What I don't understand is that we act like its serious. Then make up all these fake things that THINK they help, when in fact they can 't, or could actually hurt.

Our government is lead in all this stupidity....


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What do you think, Paul, and anyone else?

Ontario shooting itself in the foot?


I don't think so. If Ontario was the only place that was facing a third wave, then I would consider it, but it is happening almost everywhere.

I don't need to be a doctor to realize that the likelihood of more infections increases rapidly in big cities. At present, the three most populated areas of the province are the hardest hit. Toronto, York, and Peel regions. They are all clustered together in southern Onterrible..Approximatelt 35% of Canada's entire population is located in a small area there.

My personal belief is that the anti-COVID/anti mask/anti-vaccination crowd is keeping this alive. It only takes a few people to spread it around. After a year, I have not seen a definitive explanation as to how it continues, but one thing is clear: more people that are packed into a small space means that COVID will rage on.

Sadly, some factions are blaming Premier Ford. Some say he's not doing enough. That's COVID fatigue talking IMO. He has repeatedly said he is following what the medical people are telling him.

So it goes with the rest of the world. COVID continues in the US, Europe and Asia.

If you want a conspiracy theory, here's one: COVID was the Illuminati's plan to reduce the numbers of people, weaken smaller competitors and make more money for the big guys. The anti-vaccers are making the Illuminati crowd rich! laugh


Steve. Honest question here. Have you taken haz mat responder classes?

And are you aware that SARs has been around a lot longer than 2019/2020 and that covid 19 is a form of SARs?



Yes to both, when I was still in uniform and as a civilian weapons instructor.

I do not consider much of what I read on this site to be of value. The reason is that no one is qualified to speak definitively about the matter.

In short, most love to proselytize, but no one is credentialled.


We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I put my trust in what the doctors are saying. covid continues to be a problem around the globe. I believe that people are fed up, and their nerves are wearing thin.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I put my trust in what the doctors are saying. covid continues to be a problem around the globe. I believe that people are fed up, and their nerves are wearing thin.


Thats exactly what Al Gore said back in the 90's when people questioned his claim that the north pole would be ice free by 2013. He should have qualified his statement, as should you. You put your trust in what the doctors YOU AGREE WITH are saying. Those who disagree are automatically disregarded. It doesnt matter how qualified they might be.

Im sure you've read the "great barrington declaration" ?? Im sure you've heard about Americans frontline doctors alliance ??

Thousands of doctors from around the globe have now signed the barrington declaration, and the frontline doctors alliance has been at the forefront of this mess from the beginning. They are not a bunch of cowboys out to make the government look bad. They are highly educated board certified specialists.

Take some time and read the studies and clinical trials that have been done on Ivermectin. Then ask yourself why it isnt being given to everyone. Life could go back to normal in a week at a fraction of the cost we are paying for the vaccine...and ivermectin gives far better protection than the vaccine, and its obviously much safer. I already know you wont research it for yourself. You will continue to believe what the government and the MSM says. Thats just how some people are put together and thats fine, but you shouldnt try to belittle and bully others with a different opinion who have taken the time to form their own opinion.

I think its quite telling that an average of 50% of those in the medical profession are not taking the vaccine according to some reports.

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Everyone puts their trust in the individuals or organizations that they believe. Naturally, we support those we trust. We would not have Liberal and Conservative supporters, or pro and anti gun people otherwise.

I said earlier that everyone is free to believe what they want. When discussing differing points of view, I think the exchange should be civil and evidence should be presented to support your argument. I appreciate that you do not rant or name call. That happens too often around here.


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It's telling that almost the whole Canuck hockey team has come down with it. In Vancouver the P-1 variant ,first discouvered in Brazil, is half the new cases. With the old variant one or two players would come down with it, and be side lined. By following the NHL protocols, hockey teams were avoiding COVID. From what they know about it, it spreads mostly in the 20-39 age group. It's 2 1/2 times more contagious. More of those that get it, get sicker, with tragic results. And they are younger. Women are getting it at a higher rate than the old variant. I don't think the BC shutdown is going to be strict enough.

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It's telling that almost the whole Canuck hockey team has come down with it. In Vancouver the B-1 variant ,first discouvered in Brazil, is half the new cases. With the old variant one or two players would come down with it, and be side lined. By following the NHL protocols, hockey team were avoiding COVID. From what they know about it, it spreads mostly in the 20-39 age group. It's 2 1/2 times more contagious. More of those that get it, get sicker, with tragic results. And they are younger. Women are getting it at a higher rate than the old variant. I don't think the BC shutdown is going to be strict enough.


A couple of questions, and I admit right from the start that I havent heard anything about the hockey team you are referencing.

The first question is how do we know the real numbers of who has what, when the tests are inaccurate ? Not only inaccurate, but according to our own government give a very high number of FALSE positives ? I think that question deserves a rational answer before we continue down the road we have been on that is devastating not only our economy, but also the health ( both mental and physical) of the people.

The next question is why should we believe stricter lockdowns will help when the data clearly shows that states with less restrictions fared just as well, and in some cases better than those that went over the top??

Then I would question the claim that the new variants are more deadly. I havent seen any data that shows that?? The statistical data on covid is now very clear. Without interventions of any kind, the survival rates of all age groups is over 98%. In hospitals where ivermectin is used, its even higher. Now that we have the clinical trials on ivermectin we know that covid deaths could have been reduced by 75% in the US alone. Think about those numbers and then with a straight face tell me Fauci and all the other government doctors should be believed. They were aware of the success doctors were having with it months ago and did nothing but marginalize them. Now that the results are undeniable, they still refuse to even mention ivermectin. Why??


The average age of those who have died from covid is 78.5 years old. Interestingly enough, the average life expectancy in the US is exactly the same 78.5

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Originally Posted by downwindtracker2
It's telling that almost the whole Canuck hockey team has come down with it. In Vancouver the P-1 variant ,first discouvered in Brazil, is half the new cases. With the old variant one or two players would come down with it, and be side lined. By following the NHL protocols, hockey teams were avoiding COVID. From what they know about it, it spreads mostly in the 20-39 age group. It's 2 1/2 times more contagious. More of those that get it, get sicker, with tragic results. And they are younger. Women are getting it at a higher rate than the old variant. I don't think the BC shutdown is going to be strict enough.

Obviously, someone fugged up, and was exposed to the Virus, came back and gave it to the entire team...essentially ruining the rest of the season for everyone, especially their fans.

It still isn't enough reason to shut down the entire Province. You can put 5-6 states into the size of BC.

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One thing I noticed about Pro Hockey games on TV—no fans at all in the stands—but every single coach on every hockey team has a mask on. I know some hockey coaches—some of them are real rebels.
I think they have been instructed upon pain of no pay check to wear those masks.
I hate the virtue signaling.

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Originally Posted by kkahmann
One thing I noticed about Pro Hockey games on TV—no fans at all in the stands—but every single coach on every hockey team has a mask on. I know some hockey coaches—some of them are real rebels.
I think they have been instructed upon pain of no pay check to wear those masks.
I hate the virtue signaling.

Yup, full blown virtue signaling. See how well it worked?
They could of cracked down on the spitting, I doubt there is a sport that has more spitter's than hockey lol.

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It doesn't matter what you want to call it, shut down, lock down, circuit breaker, the idea is to limit the number of contacts. I don't see difficulty in understanding that concept. Fewer people you come in contact with, the less likely you are are to pick up or spread a virus. Since people don't all act responsibly , young people love partying, you have to make rules. I know my life would have been a whole lot different if I had been a nose to the grind stone type instead of a rangatang when I was young. I guess I can understand, .them.

In Ontario, they are dealing with the B.117 variant which is 50% or so more contagious . In BC it's both the B.117 and the P-1 , which is 2 1/2 (250%) times more contagious.


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Originally Posted by downwindtracker2
It doesn't matter what you want to call it, shut down, lock down, circuit breaker, the idea is to limit the number of contacts. I don't see difficulty in understanding that concept. Fewer people you come in contact with, the less likely you are are to pick up or spread a virus. Since people don't all act responsibly , young people love partying, you have to make rules. I know my life would have been a whole lot different if I had been a nose to the grind stone type instead of a rangatang when I was young. I guess I can understand, .them.

In Ontario, they are dealing with the B.117 variant which is 50% or so more contagious . In BC it's both the B.117 and the P-1 , which is 2 1/2 (250%) times more contagious.


I have zero difficulty understanding the concept, I just dont agree with it. There is no evidence that the restrictions have helped. None. Some of the US states that had fewer restrictions are doing better than those that totally locked down. Then when you consider the multitude of problems the restrictions have caused and continue to cause, it makes even less sense. Literally thousands of medical doctors have been saying this for months now, its not just a bunch of right wing red necks.

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The bottom line is it should have never got out of China. They had it and knew about it long before it was made public. They put 8 doctors in jail for telling the authorities they were dealing with something they had never seen before. I was in Vancouver Airport March-2-2020. My flight was changed at the last minute. I waited in the airport for 7 hours and noticed almost all Asians were wearing masks. On the flight back to Regina a pregnant Asian woman sat alone across the asile from me. She was wearing a face shield and face mask. The media has made such a circus of this virus and vaccine you don't know what to believe. I will likely get the vaccine next year. Put your trust in Dr. Tam... lol. What a joke she is. I think Saskatchewan has done a good job of dealing with this crap. JMO

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