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I cannot find any 748. I think I'm going to use Varget, Tac and H 4895. Any if those should be pretty good.
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I'm a bit late to the thread, but on the off chance you've got more IMR 4064 than one or a couple of the others, I've had very good results in two .308's with it. I use it for 150's, so decided to try it with the 125's, as well. Worthwhile effort. Since first trying it a number of years ago with the 125 Sierra PH, I've also loaded the 125 BT, 125 AB, 130 Hdy SP, 125 Hdy GMX, and most recently, the 125 Sierra TGK. I have not tried the 125 Hdy HP. But, all of those listed did well somewhere between 44.5 and 46.5 gn. The 125 Nosler pair have a nearly identical POI with 46.0 gn, entirely interchangeable. Varget or either 4895 have not required extensive development in the 308 win with light bullets IME. A mid load of Varget has been excellent in my rifle.
Good luck and shoot straight y'all All good information, thank you.
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I've loaded them for kids....
with any of the loads I recommend for kids... 30 grains of 4198 or RL 7....
not max velocity, but equate to a very effective 30/30 or 300 Savage load equivalent,
and just as effective as faster velocities, if not moreso...
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You can just about load up 125gr Sierra pro Hunters with 44.5 gr's H4895 esp. out of a 1-12 twist rifle and go hunting. These bullets flat out shoot & make pretty good whitetail bullets.
I would have got him too but a Dad Blam snow flake hit me in da eye....
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John, are you using H 4198 or IMR 4198?
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ALWAYS IMR Cliff.....
If not, then RL 7...
H 4198 is a distant third for accuracy and shot to shot consistency...
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50.5 g of W748 with 125 g Ballistic Tips is what I use. Sub moa
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ALWAYS IMR Cliff.....
If not, then RL 7...
H 4198 is a distant third for accuracy and shot to shot consistency... I was afraid you were going to say that. 50.5 g of W748 with 125 g Ballistic Tips is what I use. Sub moa I have yet to find any 748.
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I use RL15 in my 308 Hawkeye, I use it for 125gr and 165gr speer bullets. My rifle seems to like 1 grain under Speer's published max charges for those 2 bullets.
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308s are just great with about most any reasonable or 3/4 reduced type loads with Varget speed powders.
I used 4064 until I tried Varget .
As a fire form load (that has shocked me group size wise) is any 125 0R 150 grains over 40 grains of Varget. I call it the 30/40 load.
In working up an F class load, TOO much Varget will push a 155s at 3000 fps in a 30 " Savage barrel.
I ran out of 4895 because nothing works better in my .223s.
.....However, I tried BenchMark. Such a great metering powder it has replaced 4895 for my use in 308s.
30 years ago I bought 748 by the jug and used it with perfect results in a range of 308 and 30'06 125 grain game and 200 yard Match loads.
As I recall no powder tried in 308s was...bad or even average, Very Good to Cannot Believe it was that Good!
I too was a 30 grains of 4198 fan. Then I ran out so tried 2015 reduced to 29,28,and 27 grains looking for a better 200 yard practice load.
I keep good records and even targets and they all would touch in 20 shot 200 yard full effort bench rest groups...they look like a 2 yard target shot with buck shot.
You are all set with Varget but do not walk bast a can of BenchMark.
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That’s good stuff Uncas. Thanks for the info. I’ll give Benchmark a try.
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PM you my Benchmark 2" @ 600 yard recipe.
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Perfect timing. Picked up a box of 125 GMX this past Saturday.
Times being what they are I don't want to burn a lot of them in load development.
I've got some W748, Varget, Imr 4895 , & R15 on hand. I'll probably choose what I've got the most of.
I hope I get lucky.
If you have a load for this particular bullet (GMX) or 125s' in general for 308 Win. or 30/06 for that matter, please mention it.
tia...
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OSU -
I lucked into a jug (8 lbs) of 748. If you can get to Reno, NV I'll give you a pound.
I'll PM you my contact info just in case.
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Got your pm czech1022 and thank you for your offer.
Uncas, thanks for the data. I'm going to try it.
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