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John,
I would have loved to have listed lion as one of my top three, because I love to hunt lions at least as much as I love to hunt anything else, and I've taken just one superb, big, ancient, scarred-up old male lion in Tanzania.
The trouble is, I don't see that I have much of a future hunting lions in Africa. Like you, I haven't seen very many photos of truly good Zimbabwe lions, which remain affordable, and the price to get a lion as good as the one I already have taken in Botswana, Zambia, or Tanzania is off the chart any more. I wouldn't even consider any sort of canned lion hunt anywhere else.
So unless something changes (unlikely!), I don't think I'll be hunting lions anytime soon..............
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I like pigs too but am surprised the warthogs rallied to third place. Goes to show you looks ain't everything!
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Little late to this party, but I really wanted a honey badger. (Don't know why.) Then, when I finally got a chance, it turned out they weren't legal. Well, at least I saw one.
Had a chance at a pangolin (sp?), but didn't see the point.
Hunted forest hog a little, but never saw one.
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well bob,
we weren't allowed any personal cameras, and i've never digitized any of my old pics anyway but, the pangolin is sort of like an anteater with heavy prehistoric looking scales on top, and some fur below...
the congo buffalo is an odd looking cow... the ones we saw were quite shy... i'm convinced that the only reason that we saw them was the fact that we were in stealth mode....
they are quite small, like a half grown guernsey calf, with odd swept back horns
the bush pig is, well, a pig.....
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This is open to anybody, whether they've hunted in Africa or not. Just tell me the top three animals you prefer to hunt, or would prefer to hunt, REALISTICALLY. For me the top 3 would be: Cape Buffalo Greater Kudu Warthog Although I could replace warthog with a zebra or eland and not be dissatisfied. If was insanely blessed with funds and could go more than once somewhere along the line I would like to include a PAC elephant & a lion. John ditto on the mention of an article for the first time hunter in Africa. How about one on hunting Africa on a budget,ie inexpensive hunts,how to find good airfares, etc. I think something like that could prompt a lot more people to hunt Africa.
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BUFFALO and more Buffalo!!
Lots of BIG BORES...600 is my Favorite but have BIGGER!💥
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Allen,
Having recently investigated the "high cost of lions" (as Ruark put it) I sympathize. In fact, due to my sympathy I'll give lion an extra, semi-honorary vote....
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About trophy fees increasing in tanzania, i catched this on a french forum (source: the hunting report) did not translate: amounts speak from themselves Information donn�e par The Hunting Report :
Le gouvernement Tanzanien vient d'annoncer une augmentation spectaculaire des taxes d'abatage et de la taxe dite de "concession".
- Antilopes : les taxes augmentent de 35 � 100 %, les grandes antilopes co�teront donc entre 2000 et 2200 US$.
- Buffle : la taxe passe de 750 � 1500 US$ pour le 1er buffle, 1800 et 2000 pour les suivants.
- l'Hippopotame passe de 1050 � 2500 US$
- le Lion et le L�opard passent chacun de 2500 � 12 000 US$
- L'El�phant passe � 15 000 US$
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- La taxe dite de "concession" passe dans certaines zones de 10 000 US$ � 50 000 US$.
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Ceux qui auront �t� "lessiv�s" par la taxe de "concession" pourront se concentrer sur le porc-�pic qui, � 150 US$ est le moins cher de tous les gibiers...
Va t'in tch�re !
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tanzania is one place I'm looking for my 09 hunt and will have to see how this shakes out before committing a deposit there....
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Since "reasonable" seems to be mainly plains game, the top three are:
1. Sable / Roan
2. Kudu
3. Oryx / Gemsbuck
Of course the Buffalo is up there but for a general safari would probably double the time and cost.
What I'd really like to see is more information about the hunt it's self (technique, terrain, ect) and the equipment involved (rifles and such....and why nthese were chosen). Less about which manufacturer paid the most to have his products advertized in the form of a "hunting story". A good article should be more than "me and Joe got a big 'un" followed by a ten page ad for the latest bullet, rifle, ect.
I'd also like to see more stories on the lesser read-about game. The idea of a good Hippo story is just the ticket and there must be many other game animals that we seldom read about. Maybe varmit calling for the various small preditors, or shooting game birds in Africa (which I've heard was excellent and varied).
Just an idea.....
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I suspect you'll find that hunting sable or roan is right up there in cost to buffalo these days.
I already have an African bird-shooting piece scheduled in SUCCESSFUL HUNTER for next year. May do a varmint piece, as it is indeed a lot of fun.
These days I am mostly running African articles by long-time PH's who really know the animal in question, instead of American writers who have taken maybe 3-4 (or only one) of the same animal. Have two good PH's writing for the magazine right now, Kevin Robertson, who is pretty well known already as "Doctari,"
The other is Kevin Thomas, a long-time PH in his 50's, who also happens to be a very fine writer. He just never tried it until he got older! Originally from Zimbabwe, he moved to South Africa in 2000 and now works in both countries, and has his own safari company in RSA. I hunted with him in 2002 and found he was working on a book, and it was very good. After becoming editor at SH I contacted him. He's the one who did the hippo piece (an exceopt from the book) and just submitted a great story on bushbuck. He is also a fairly well-known artist in RSA, and I hope to run some of his paintings with his articles.
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John,
I'm not sure what the cost of a Sable hunt is today, but in Zim in 2005, it wasn't close to the cost of a buffalo hunt...
Given that, and the fact I've only been once (to Zim) my favorites were Nyala and Sable. Hunting the Eland was fantastic as well.
I'd love to go back for elephant, buff and lion. Maybe someday...
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Zim: Min 12 days @400/day plus 3500 dollar trophy fee. That's about the average I could come up with. Other plains game available of course. jorge
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I suspect you'll find that hunting sable or roan is right up there in cost to buffalo these days.
I already have an African bird-shooting piece scheduled in SUCCESSFUL HUNTER for next year. May do a varmint piece, as it is indeed a lot of fun.
These days I am mostly running African articles by long-time PH's who really know the animal in question, instead of American writers who have taken maybe 3-4 (or only one) of the same animal. Have two good PH's writing for the magazine right now, Kevin Robertson, who is pretty well known already as "Doctari,"
The other is Kevin Thomas, a long-time PH in his 50's, who also happens to be a very fine writer. He just never tried it until he got older! Originally from Zimbabwe, he moved to South Africa in 2000 and now works in both countries, and has his own safari company in RSA. I hunted with him in 2002 and found he was working on a book, and it was very good. After becoming editor at SH I contacted him. He's the one who did the hippo piece (an exceopt from the book) and just submitted a great story on bushbuck. He is also a fairly well-known artist in RSA, and I hope to run some of his paintings with his articles.
JB very cool.........thats the kinda stuff i like to read....
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DPhillips,
Jorge's sable quote comes to 8300. I just priced one at right at $7000, and a buffalo hunt from the same company was $9000.
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John,
1. Cape Buffalo
2. Elephant
3. Lesser Kudu
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For me- oryx, kudu, eland.
Thanks for asking
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MD, Tell me more about the Eland. I see it named quite often, but to me, other than being bigger than a sports car, it just doesn't seem that interesting. Seems like shooting a longhorn in the Texas brush......diffecult due to terrain but boring......and ugly too.
I see the blue bulls the same way.....big, tough, but ugly with no horns. Maybe there's something I'm missing.
I know the Sable /Roan are in the same cost-range as Buffalo......but are still plains game in my mind. Buffalo added to a plains game safari seems like a complete second hunt added on top.......not that the idea of Buffalo isn't attractive. Any of the Big 5 is attractive.
Speaking of the Big 5........is the hunting of Rhino still possible? Would love to see a story about that too.
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