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I never understood the idea of thinking you could outrun that many cops. Watch Smokey and The Bandit, a lot.
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There will be an out-pouring (mostly from family members) about what a really great guy the offender was: how he was really getting his life back together, would give you the shirt off his back, and the rest of the usual. And the usual talk about what a fuggin’ hero the cop was. All while putting countless people in danger, and destroying a tax payer funded piece of equipment. And no doubt putting himself on tax payer funded disability for the rest of his life.
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whats better than one car doing 120 on a busy road? 3 cars doing 120 on a busy road. +1
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This is a running trend with Arkansas HP. Why I don't know. But that trooper was ordered by his Sgt to pit that vehicle asap to end the pursuit as it was too dangerous for other motorists (driving into oncoming traffic)
Pursuits are extremely dangerous for all motorists. I'm of the opinion that unless you know for sure there is a serious crime in play, terminate it. But others will say "it could be someone with a murder warrant, or somewhat just committed a crime we don't know about". Ya well f uck it, it's still not worth it anymore.
And I've been in my fair share, some for some dumbsheit too. Live and learn.
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Better for a guilty man to go free than an innocent man to suffer.
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Less than a half mile east of there a huge intersection with school turnoff, bank, liquor store, Arkansas National Guard offices, Walmart distribution center, then the road narrows to a two lane for about a mile then into Barling Arkansas city limits, if dummy would have blown the intersection without killing 5 people the Barling POPO would have shot his ass, plus, i'm sure Ft Chaffee Range Control was notified, they may have been waiting on the two lane cutoff between the crash site and Barling.
That fugger may have been speeding into a CHIT-TON of hot lead and copper.
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When I was a pup I had eluded various law enforcement officers, got caught once. Looking back it doesn’t take much to see how foolish it was. High speed, driving without headlights, endangering others. Later found out officers had visited my parents residence in the middle of the night just to confirm it was the vehicle, but never disturbed us. It was a different time, one of the same officers did me a favor later escorted me home one night when my headlights failed. There was no bad blood, just a cat and mouse game.
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I'll bet the trooper's back will never be the same again. The force placed upon it from the multiple directional stresses had to have done major damage to his vertebral discs. I dont know how his neck didnt break. Seems a little bump to the rt rear bumper would have made the perp lose control. Heck, even a straight on mild bump at that speed would probably have done it.
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What I don’t understand in a lot of cases is why it is necessary for officers to endanger themselves and the public at large by continuing pursuits, in built up areas especially, for cases where no indication that a clear and present danger to the public will continue after a pursuit is terminated. No knowledge of why this guy was fleeing, but he died, a cop nearly did, and large numbers of folks were exposed to serious risk in the effort to get him. Hope it was worth it.
I am not a cop, never been one, so have no frame of reference to work from other than seeing one guy doing stupid things in traffic with usually several cops doing what appears to be the exact same things right behind him. Things that are hugely risky for anyone, including the cops themselves. Have seen cops locally just back off when a person runs, and the cretin gets arrested later without incident at home, because some savvy cop got his plate number and they just went to his house. I realize this is not always a workable strategy, but it seems to be a pretty good one when it works. Truth. Why didnt they have road blocks set up miles ahead and shoot the sucker to protect the innocent? Heres what a 50 freaking mile chase here resulted in https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-man-charged-crash-killed-8-migrants-n1261364.
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In the case of misdemeanor suspects, many departments now simply record the license plate of the vehicle, and if it's not stolen, break off the chase.
When the suspect gets home, the cops are waiting for him, usually with an arrest warrant.. Well, thats no fun.
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Wonder what that trooper was thinking when he launched? Ohhh, schiett!!!
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If the perp were a good driver he would have been able to stay in the left lane until the leo ALMOST got past him, pulled right, clipped the leos driver side rear bumper and pitted him and kept driving.
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If the perp were a good driver he would have been able to stay in the left lane until the leo ALMOST got past him, pulled right, clipped the leos driver side rear bumper and pitted him and kept driving. Heard the perp was a mild vegetable, the dim bulb never should have had a drivers license in the first place, another win for a democrat plan put into law.
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It makes me sick at my stomach to think of a family van full of kids pulling out in front of that. Or a school bus. That's where I am. But...he'll do it until that happens if you don't roll him now. That's sure happened before. I remember one chase that was called off, and after it was called off the runner hit a car at a red light because "the guilty flee when no man pursueth." Fatal wreck. I'm all in favor of a mag dump through the roof on the drivers side from the police helicopter. Amen. Im betting a load of 00 Buck through the front hood and glass would result in many perps pulling over.
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Wonder what that trooper was thinking when he launched? Ohhh, schiett!!! I’m hoping the guy isn’t in for a lifetime of chronic pain, seems very possible tho.
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Cops should never pursue anyone who runs from the cops. That's a smart idea. Well, they aren't allowed to stop looters, rioters, and arsonists. Take a vacation and see see how the heathens about 1000 miles south handle it. This.
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Im wondering how many here, if driving many of the many big rigs they passed, would have started swerving across both lanes while ahead of the runner had they seen the chase coming up on them from behind.
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Just Why? whatever this guy did, was it worth THAT outcome?
yeah I didn't read the entire thread...
if they had the plate number, they couldn't have arrested this guy later?
its not like he'd leave the state....
looks like something dreamed up for a Smokey and the Bandit scene in a movie.
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The pursuit of Battenfield has been initiated in the area of Ingersoll Circle and U.S. 71 at approximately 6:36 AM by a Forest Service Ranger.
Say what? Why is the Forrest Service trying to enforce traffic laws?
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In reality for Arkansas HP, this is like an avg pursuit for them. Just go watch some of the others.
I suspect within the next couple of years their pursuit policy will undergo an overhaul (due to civil litigation).
Or maybe they just keep performing PIT maneuvers over 100 mph.
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