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No. Because you've made an idiot of yourself in this thread.

Should this cop be jailed for what seems pretty obviously an accident? On average, over 100 people die per day in car crashes in the USA. Someone's screw up cost someone else their life. Unless the driver is impaired or obliterating a speed limit, most drivers who kill someone don't face any criminal charges.

Okay.

Exactly.

Oh boy, here come Paul with some more brain teasers.

Oheremicus is Rocklin Wolley.


http://www.bikernet.com/pages/October_23_2003_Part_2.aspx
BIKERNET COP CONVICTION STUDY-- Bad Cop: Convicting a cop, nearly impossible... California - It's been more than three decades since a police officer faced criminal charges for fatally shooting someone in Santa Clara County.

As a county grand jury considers this week whether to charge a San Jose officer in the July shooting death of a Vietnamese woman, the long-ago case of former officer Rocklin Woolley illustrates the long odds involved in trying an officer for killing in the line of duty.

"It's always hard for a jury to convict an officer, particularly in our county, where the public has a high opinion of police,'' said Dave Davies, a retired prosecutor who unsuccessfully sought to convict Woolley of felony manslaughter.

Woolley's case bore many similarities to the July 13 shooting of Bich Cau Thi Tran by San Jose police officer Chad Marshall. Both shootings drew public outrage and involved victims who were not white. The officers said they acted in self-defense and were accused of overreacting with deadly force to a harmless threat.

But what is especially telling about the failed prosecution of Woolley is that in some ways, his behavior seems more difficult to justify than that of Marshall, the officer in the Tran case. While Marshall faced a woman wielding a large, sharp instrument -- which turned out to be a vegetable peeler -- Woolley shot an unarmed man who was running away from him.

Woolley was a 27-year-old patrol officer when he stopped motorist John Henry Smith Jr., 37, for allegedly making an illegal U-turn Sept. 19, 1971. Smith, a black IBM research technician on his way home from a date, angrily protested the traffic stop when two off-duty officers who lived nearby happened on the scene.

Police said Smith threatened the officers with a tire iron. Woolley said he tried to subdue Smith with tear gas, then sent his police dog after him as he slipped free and fled toward an apartment complex.

As Smith reached the apartments, Woolley fired a single shot from his .45-caliber pistol, killing the unarmed man. Woolley later said he acted in self-defense, fearing Smith would arm himself once inside the apartments.

Community tension prompted calls for outside investigations. Two months later, a grand jury indicted Woolley on charges of manslaughter and using illegal tear gas.

At Woolley's trial, Davies told jurors the unarmed Smith posed no threat when he was shot. There was evidence Woolley threatened to kill Smith for suggesting he would sue over being tear-gassed. And officers said Smith had brandished a tire iron, but the tire iron turned out to fit one of their cars, not Smith's.

Then-Police Chief Robert Murphy said afterward that he no longer believed Woolley was justified in the shooting. Woolley, who was later fired along with another officer, lives in Placerville and declined comment. The city paid $30,000 to settle lawsuits on behalf of Smith's three children.

Though other fatal police shootings have been controversial since then, none resulted in charges against the officers, let alone convictions. Officials declined calls for an open grand jury hearing into the 1976 shooting of unarmed Latino bartender Danny Trevino by two San Jose officers.

The first such open hearing was held 20 years later over the 1996 death of Gustavo Soto Mesa, a suspected drunken driver fatally shot in the back as he ran from a sheriff's deputy. The grand jury declined to charge the deputy, who said his gun fired accidentally.

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As long as humans are policing humans the work product and the result will be flawed. I am not perfect and but can only strive to be. I you want perfection in every circumstance then find another way to police. I do not have an answer for you. Keep looking. Blue

People are sent to prison for accidents all the time. Have you two ever heard of negligent homicide or manslaughter?

No,it's not stupid at all to continue the restraint as the life slowly passes from the subject's body, then show no concern whatsoever when he stops moving, then stops breathing. Nothing dumb about it. Chauvin is a brilliant tactician.

It is simply not possible that anyone could be that stupid...but then, you are a lawyer.

Clueless is an inadequate term here

Not for accidents. At least our laws aren't supposed to place such cases within the criminal court system. If someone goes to jail for a car wreck where someone is injured or killed, there's usually drugs or alcohol involved, or other reckless or malicious conduct.

Your stupidity on the subject has been consistent.

If people think we have sh~ty cops now, just wait till you see the next run of transgender, animal loving, environmentally aware , social activist that comes to our citizens rescue !

I'm not following the trial, but has anyone yet figure out what Chauvin was holding onto so dearly in his pocket ?

You are dumb as a brick. You accidentally miss seeing a stop sign and kill someone, you have committed negligent homicide

When was the last time you heard of a motorist going to jail for killing someone in a crash when the driver was not impaired or traveling way over the speed limit. With 38000 killed each year in the USA, you should be able to post a laundry list if you are correct.

The bottom line is that it is exceedingly rare to be jailed for accidentally taking someone's life without some kind of aggravating factor. The numbers vary wildly, but some numbers have 250,000 patients dying each year due to medical malpractice. How often do you hear of a doctor being jailed?

Only to be met with yet another banal comment.

Is that how yall do it in New Orleans

Guys the benefit of a doubt is for the good and competent LEO's
Agreed this gal was not in that category

You dodged the question, and for good reason.