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I spun off 20 rounds using 12.5 grains of H-110 pushing a 100 grain A-Frame using Starline Brass.
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I am using Remington 7 1/2 Bench Rest. Looking at various data sources, it looks like even with a compressed load, H110 pressure remain well below max, so that offers some margin of safety. Never ever have air space with H110/296 The load data shows all H-110 starting loads as non-compressed. As I said never ever have air space with H110/296 of course you being you erratic performance probably is fine with you
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I am using Remington 7 1/2 Bench Rest. Looking at various data sources, it looks like even with a compressed load, H110 pressure remain well below max, so that offers some margin of safety. Never ever have air space with H110/296 The load data shows all H-110 starting loads as non-compressed. As I said never ever have air space with H110/296 Said another way, published load data shows H-110 loads with air space.
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I am using Remington 7 1/2 Bench Rest. Looking at various data sources, it looks like even with a compressed load, H110 pressure remain well below max, so that offers some margin of safety. Never ever have air space with H110/296 The load data shows all H-110 starting loads as non-compressed. As I said never ever have air space with H110/296 Said another way, published load data shows H-110 loads with air space. You sure about that
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I am using Remington 7 1/2 Bench Rest. Looking at various data sources, it looks like even with a compressed load, H110 pressure remain well below max, so that offers some margin of safety. Never ever have air space with H110/296 The load data shows all H-110 starting loads as non-compressed. As I said never ever have air space with H110/296 Said another way, published load data shows H-110 loads with air space. Tell me about the air space in published loads, I'm all ears. The starting load with H-110 is 12.2 grains and max load is 13.2 grains You are a complete idiot
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I am using Remington 7 1/2 Bench Rest. Looking at various data sources, it looks like even with a compressed load, H110 pressure remain well below max, so that offers some margin of safety. Never ever have air space with H110/296 The load data shows all H-110 starting loads as non-compressed. As I said never ever have air space with H110/296 Said another way, published load data shows H-110 loads with air space. You sure about that Yes.
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I am using Remington 7 1/2 Bench Rest. Looking at various data sources, it looks like even with a compressed load, H110 pressure remain well below max, so that offers some margin of safety. Never ever have air space with H110/296 The load data shows all H-110 starting loads as non-compressed. As I said never ever have air space with H110/296 Said another way, published load data shows H-110 loads with air space. You sure about that Yes. B. S.
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I am using Remington 7 1/2 Bench Rest. Looking at various data sources, it looks like even with a compressed load, H110 pressure remain well below max, so that offers some margin of safety. Never ever have air space with H110/296 The load data shows all H-110 starting loads as non-compressed. As I said never ever have air space with H110/296 Said another way, published load data shows H-110 loads with air space. You sure about that Yes. B. S. The Starline brass I used is 1.2 inches long and FL sized. With 12.2 grains of H110, the case is filled to .365 inches below the mouth. From the top of the cannelure of a 100 gr XTP to the base of the bullet is .315, and Hodgdon doesn't recommend seating it that deeply. That translates to air space. Maybe the Federal brass they used was thicker than my Starline. Maybe my Lyman caliper is off. Maybe the XTP bullets I have are from a different lot and are of different dimensions than those Hodgdon used. But make no mistake about it, there is air space at 12.2 grains. That's why I went with 12.5. Because that is where, based on my observations, the base of the bullet (Swift A-Frame) just makes very light contact. So go ahead and reel off another childish goddam retort now. It's very important for you to think I am wrong/idiot. I don't want to steal your joy.
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Childish my azz, you just proved my point, little to no airspace
You are a complete idiot
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Never ever have air space with H110/296
As I said never ever have air space with H110/296...
Tell me about the air space in published loads, I'm all ears.
Childish my azz, you just proved my point, little to no airspace
You are a complete idiot
Now that I have shown you to be wrong, it's "little" to no airspace. LOL
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I’m in the same situation, SCRooster. Been using the pistol primers in .22 Hornet for awhile, but never tried them in anything .223 Rem or bigger.
My .25-06 shoots 1/4" all day long and I don't even have to do my part...
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Never ever have air space with H110/296
As I said never ever have air space with H110/296...
Tell me about the air space in published loads, I'm all ears.
Childish my azz, you just proved my point, little to no airspace
You are a complete idiot
Now that I have shown you to be wrong, it's "little" to no airspace. LOL You are an idiot you haven't shown me to be wrong
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Few years back Midway blew out Rem 6.5s pretty cheap. Bought couple sleeves for 9mm open bolt Uzi SMGs.
Discovered they work in every 9mm pistol we've had at the classes. Loaded them in .38 Spl and they're gtg, as well. None of the revolvers have lightened hammer falls, tho. See no difference in chrono readings.
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I have shot north of 20K rounds of .38 Super in my STI Grandmaster nearly all with VV 3N37 and small rifle primers. 124 gr HAP @ 1400+FPS.
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Supposedly CCI-400 small rifle and CCI-550 small pistol magnum primers are identical, just a change in packaging.
I don't know if it's true or not, but I use 400's in my pistol loads because I have a bunch of them. They've always worked perfectly for me.
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Paul, Several guys in the pistol forum have tried this. Here you go, Paul. The Super Vel video on the last page pretty much lays out what we were learning and surmising. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/15718548/1
"Don't believe everything you see on the Internet" - Abraham Lincoln
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I've been using small rifle primers in the .38 special and .357 magnum for some time now.....works just fine for me.
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Thanks for the link. From a safety standpoint, it appears to make no difference. A little more ES with SRP? It would take more testing to reach any conclusions.
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Burned a lot of SPP working up loads for the Sneezer. When I started using SRP velocity increased 50 FPS +/- and ES dropped like a rock. No harm is doing it, but expect some change in performance.
I use H110 and WW296 for fertilizer. L’il Gun is mo’ betta in every way.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Burned a lot of SPP working up loads for the Sneezer. When I started using SRP velocity increased 50 FPS +/- and ES dropped like a rock. No harm is doing it, but expect some change in performance.
I use H110 and WW296 for fertilizer. L’il Gun is mo’ betta in every way. I have to use what I have right now.
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