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Re: Internal ATF Document: Ghost Guns
wyoming260 #16015447 04/21/21
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Originally Posted by wyoming260
Apparently you only need some good water pipe and fittings.... I like when he says I will shoot it left handed so it does blow off my good hand.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8ym6MfpWmE


That would be about as effective on a human being as one of these.



PS The above gun can be mailed direct to your home, no FFL.

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Re: Internal ATF Document: Ghost Guns
The_Real_Hawkeye #16015452 04/21/21
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by asheepdog
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Can't anyone with a $5.00 file and five minutes make a ghost gun


A $200 off the shelf 3D printer can make a Glock frame, or a 10/22 receiver, or an AR lower, or any of several guns designed from the scratch to be produced by printing. The incremental cost of making another is ~$2 worth of plastic filament.

You may be able to "make" a frame with a 3d printer, but when you go to use it as a firearm, you will most likely be in for a surprise very quickly when it disassembles itself.

Nope. Perfectly serviceable Glock frames, for example, can be printed up with about $4.00 worth of material. You then only need to install some steel rail segments, which are available online, no FFL required, and come with instructions on how. The other parts for a Glock are available online, e.g., complete slide assembly, magazines, no FFL required.

All legal, since (as I understand it) there's no law against making your own firearms from scratch, so long as you don't sell it or give it away, or take it out of state.


You can take them out of state, you can even sell them or give them away so long as you do not make them with the intent of selling them or providing them to a prohibited person.

You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Re: Internal ATF Document: Ghost Guns
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Originally Posted by gregintenn
An AR lower receiver receives virtually no stress at all from the rifle firing. If you can 3D primt a pistol grip for one, there’s no reason at all a lower receiver printed the same way wouldn’t be serviceable. It is done every day.

Yep.
Re: Internal ATF Document: Ghost Guns
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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

You can take them out of state, you can even sell them or give them away so long as you do not make them with the intent of selling them or providing them to a prohibited person.

Thanks for the info. Didn't know that.
Re: Internal ATF Document: Ghost Guns
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Originally Posted by Jim1611
So at what point are shops that can actually machine these a target?


Where have you been?

That's already happened in more ways than one.

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