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Just like the title said for shooting grouse while elk hunting. I've been on a perpetual journey for the same. Tried MP .22's (too bulky), SW617 (heavy), North American Arms micro pistol, and most recently a SW317. Finding something accurate and lightweight is the challenge. I can more than hold my own in the accuracy department, but damn if some of the .22's being produced today are useful for anything better than hitting garbage cans at 7 yards. The SW317 is super light, but the sights suck. Who thought some combat h-viz fiber optic was good on a .22 kit gun???? When you do get the sights to line up, accuracy is marginal at best. Maybe 5 of the 8 cylinders will put holes in golf ball sized group at 10 yards, but the other three shots will open the group up to 3 inches. I've marked the chambers so it's not the chambers, I actually think the forcing cone needs to be reamed cleaner. The NAA was about the same as the 317. Its sights are very crude, but if you know where to hold it would work, sometimes. I'm thinking an old-school SW34 might be a better option for accuracy. They actually cared about things like accuracy a few decades ago. Will come at the price of several ounces. The G44 might be an option if you don't mind always using HV ammo. I like the CB and quiet rounds which only function in a revolver. My experience with the 317 mirrors yours. I finally sold mine.
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A 15 oz pre-M43 3 1/2" Smith at IIRC 15 oz. lower left.
The original model 43 is a great shooter and carries real nice. Wouldn't part with mine. That said, I'd check out the LCR/LCRX today, if I was looking. Don't discount the LCR with it's fixed sights...
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I don't buy all the excuses for the 317. I can shoot circles around the one I tried with my Baretta m21 with several different loads, including Stingers. And that 21 is even smaller with smaller sights.
I don't think you can do better than the model 63. I personally would choose the 5" version they made for a short time if you can find one.
Back when S&W took a long break from producing any 63s and used ones were gold, I picked up a blued Taurus 5" model 94. It's popular to trash all Taurus handguns and the 94 in particular, but mine has been so good that since S&W resumed production of the 63, I have felt no desire to buy one. My 94 rivals my VQ equipped Ruger MKIII Hunter for SA trigger and accuracy. I did have a local gunsmith clean up the DA and slightly reduce its pull weight, but even with that expense I have significantly less into it than the price of a 63.
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This I-frame is pretty light and very easy to shoot well. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/XtThtp1.jpg) As others have noted. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/j05wK0w.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/0b4rVss.jpg)
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I just bought a S &W Model 63, 8 shot 3" barrel ,red fiber optic front sight, beautiful stainless finish, adjustable rear sight that is sweet.
It's the best little revolver I ever owned, for a 3" I shoot this very well, 25yds under 2''. I have a s & w model 19 4'' I shoot just about as good with wadcutters. They both fit inside my pocket, but the 63 is even better, takes up less room and shoots great. Price is up there, but worth it.
I would have got him too but a Dad Blam snow flake hit me in da eye....
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I like the older Smith's much better than the new ones. I have a 617 4" it's heavy, the M18 is a good choice lighter than the 617 but enough weight to hold steady and very accurate, the M34 (Kit Gun) is the lightest of the three and carries well and with practice very accurate. The M18 or M34 would be good choices. Shop quality not price and you will never be disappointed.
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I'll go a different route. I'd suggest a GSG 1911-22. Mine is quite accurate, light weight yet large enough to hang onto and shoot well, good trigger, and operates in that old 1911 way. It has good 3 dot sights. I don't know what they go for today, but mine was $300 new a few years back.
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![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/rpWyIvX.jpg) Another vote for the Heavy Frame Target. I am amazed how well this thing shoots considering it's size and weight.
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![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/NcRBSUa.jpg) Colt made just the firearm you are looking for....the Woodsman. Not a revolver, but it'll do what you are asking.
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![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/HYUHWTx.jpg) You could do worse than the Kit Gun seen in the middle here.
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For your stated use, I've liked 2 particular guns over the years. 1st one is the Ruger Single Six. 4-5/8" and 5-1/2" are my favorites,
and 2nd is my 4" Ruger SP101. Both will serve the purpose.
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I've owned a few "lightweight" 22 LR revolves, but I wouldn't call the sights on any of them very good.
Sentinel, 4"
LCR, 1-7/8"
Pathfinder, 2"
Pathfinder had a great DA pull, but was horrible in SA. Sentinel didn't like any ammo. Maybe me, but I couldn't get anything to group well.
Also had a Bearcat with rear notch sight. It shot better than the others even though it probably had the worst sights of them all. Quite a bit heavier, but shot surprisingly well.
Haven't tried the LCRx yet.
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Just like the title said for shooting grouse while elk hunting. I use a 4in S&W 651 in .22 WMR for that duty. It is more flexible than the .22LR. For whatever reason, I also shoot it a bit better than my S&W 63 .22 LR. i do use the 63 for plinking and sage rats. My wife has a Charter Arms 4 in .22LR/.22WMR convertible 4 in SS. It is a great setup too. We did narrow the front sight blade to get a bit more precision. We have old and new Taurus 94, 4 inchers in the family as well and they are excellent in single action. Their DA pulls are petty stiff..
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For iron sights and lightweight, a small revolver can easily be too light to shoot well. I’ll take steel and sight radius any day. ![[Linked Image from live.staticflickr.com]](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50687222833_3b056fb8b8_o_d.jpg) For accurate and super compact, just red dot the thing already  ![[Linked Image from live.staticflickr.com]](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50601984981_0365ee3076_o_d.jpg) It may look goofy but I can hit stuff at night with my glasses on.
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Well it was a nice pocket pistol, looks like you don't need one, & turned it into a winter parka coat pistol........LOL
I would have got him too but a Dad Blam snow flake hit me in da eye....
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Not a revolver, but the 4.5" barreled S&W 422/622 alloy frame semi-autos with adjustable sights carry better for me than comparable revolvers. Good choice. Funny, but the OP says "lightweight" and folks respond with all steel revolvers. I have a 6" 622 (circa 1992) and it is certainly meets the lightweight criteria. Nice plinker. I wouldn't screw around with revolvers personally as there too many lightweight semi-autos to ignore.
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Ruger LCRx 3". That's what I use for similar purposes. Light, accurate, 100% reliable.
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Byd: The answer to your query is a Smith & Wesson 4" barrel Model 63!
This pistol IS lightweight - I barely ever notice it on my hip in its Uncle Mike's non-leather holster.
And it does VERY well on Grouse and small game - been using my Model 63's for 4+ decades now with no complaints or failures what so ever.
Plus my first one has way more than doubled in value since I bought it.
Best of luck to you with whichever you choose.
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That Model 17 Heritage is one that slipped past a lot of folks, really nice with the Outdoorsman style barrel.
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