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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
We could whomp them with a knotted line.


Granny Hawkins for President

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I say all that talk is worth doodly squat!


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reagan was a excellent president as compared to most others.trump was the non politician president hated by the left,also by the vast majority on the right.as he was not a politician by the standards of all the rest of the swamp.i would be beyond elated for trump to be re elected,with the new way of stolen and rigged elections and 2 conservatives on the not so supreme court..your just pissing into the wind thinking it will change.

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We need another Honest Abe..................only because he wanted to send the Negroes back to Africa.

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Originally Posted by 45_100
Reagan was the most conservative President we could get at that time but he was also a politician, having been governor of California. He compromised on some things I don't think he should have. Amnesty being one. He should have pushed harder for conservative issues.


I've always believed that former governors have the potential to make better presidents, due to having to compromise to get things done.

Regarding Reagans stance on immigration, he had a much larger immigration plan that included a crackdown on enforcement. However, he had to dial the enforcement aspects back to at least get part of his plan passed. Reagan often said, “I’d rather get 80 percent of what I want than go over the cliff with my flag flying.” His approach was to compromise to get the best deal he could and then try for the rest of what he wanted once people saw that his plan was working and having the desired outcome. That's what governing is supposed to do. Unfortunately for Reagan, the enforcement part was never realized. We now find ourselves right back in the same position, but instead of 3 million, we're staring at upwards of 12 million folks that have been allowed to remain here illegally.

Unfortunately, our political parties have lost the art of compromise. Compromise is what allows stable and incremental governing that adapts our policies over time to suit our needs. Instead we have every politician trying to hit one out of the park with radical changes and the stability of our system has collapsed and our populace is at odds with one another, with risk of social collapse.

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While we wait endlessly for the perfect leader, the Commies kick azz 24/365.


Imagine a corporate oligarchy so effective, so advanced and fine tuned that its citizens still call it a democracy.



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Originally Posted by Borchardt
While we wait endlessly for the perfect leader, the Commies kick azz 24/365.



The perfect leader will now need waaaaay more than 8 years to get us out of this [bleep] deficit bullshit......we're talking monarchy.

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Originally Posted by 45_100
Reagan was the most conservative President we could get at that time but he was also a politician, having been governor of California. He compromised on some things I don't think he should have. Amnesty being one. He should have pushed harder for conservative issues.


I've always believed that former governors have the potential to make better presidents, due to having to compromise to get things done.

Regarding Reagans stance on immigration, he had a much larger immigration plan that included a crackdown on enforcement. However, he had to dial the enforcement aspects back to at least get part of his plan passed. Reagan often said, “I’d rather get 80 percent of what I want than go over the cliff with my flag flying.” His approach was to compromise to get the best deal he could and then try for the rest of what he wanted once people saw that his plan was working and having the desired outcome. That's what governing is supposed to do. Unfortunately for Reagan, the enforcement part was never realized. We now find ourselves right back in the same position, but instead of 3 million, we're staring at upwards of 12 million folks that have been allowed to remain here illegally.

Unfortunately, our political parties have lost the art of compromise. Compromise is what allows stable and incremental governing that adapts our policies over time to suit our needs. Instead we have every politician trying to hit one out of the park with radical changes and the stability of our system has collapsed and our populace is at odds with one another, with risk of social collapse.
yep the enforcement was undone by 2 bush presidents and clinton. That was what really did it. It’s the one fact in particular that makes gwb presidency a complete and utter failure.

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Ron had the "Gift of Gab."


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I loved Reagan. Voted for him twice. Campaigned for him when I was in college. I consider him the best president of my lifetime. He was a statesman who dealt with other statesmen. But we have a greatly diminished American nation today. Too many people pushing for for what amounts to a Stalinist type Soviet system where the democratic process is just lip service and genuine freedom is a lie. Trump tried to right that ship and fought the system viciously. But even though true American patriots elected him to a second term the big government machine stole it. Reagan didn't have to live in that world. He was hated almost as bad as Trump but there was at least a pretense of order in Reagan's time. The socialist monster isn't hiding anymore.

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Originally Posted by stevelyn
We had a better-than-Reagan in office and the enemy waged a coordinated campaign against him for his entire term.

The best way to get rid of an enemy is to end their existence. As you say, war is coming.

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Ya I liked him.
Many thought he was anti gun.
But he was is better than anything we've had in awhile. A leader who was respected in the world and here.


Not even counting what he did while in office, He signed a letter post presidency to urge congress to support Clinton’s weapon ban.

If Bush came out and said we need to support a Biden ban on assault weapons would you say he was anti gun?

Bush reversed the assault rifles ban from what i remember.
I also remember Regan, i know he was anti gun in some ways, people will say the same about trump because of the bump stock ban.
What is waht anymore?


I would have got him too but a Dad Blam snow flake hit me in da eye....
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Originally Posted by AML
I loved Reagan. Voted for him twice. Campaigned for him when I was in college. I consider him the best president of my lifetime. He was a statesman who dealt with other statesmen. But we have a greatly diminished American nation today. Too many people pushing for for what amounts to a Stalinist type Soviet system where the democratic process is just lip service and genuine freedom is a lie. Trump tried to right that ship and fought the system viciously. But even though true American patriots elected him to a second term the big government machine stole it. Reagan didn't have to live in that world. He was hated almost as bad as Trump but there was at least a pretense of order in Reagan's time. The socialist monster isn't hiding anymore.

Good on you , at the time he was the right man for the job. He straightened out this country, most people posting here weren't even around then or still [bleep] in diapers. We had and lived through Carter, after that Regan turned into a hero for us that remember. I also voted for him twice.


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I'd prefer Trump back with all the right cabinet and military ready to go
Originally Posted by AML
I loved Reagan. Voted for him twice. Campaigned for him when I was in college. I consider him the best president of my lifetime. He was a statesman who dealt with other statesmen. But we have a greatly diminished American nation today. Too many people pushing for for what amounts to a Stalinist type Soviet system where the democratic process is just lip service and genuine freedom is a lie. Trump tried to right that ship and fought the system viciously. But even though true American patriots elected him to a second term the big government machine stole it. Reagan didn't have to live in that world. He was hated almost as bad as Trump but there was at least a pretense of order in Reagan's time. The socialist monster isn't hiding anymore.

Well said, Sir. I agree!


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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We NEED, another, Ronald Reagon.



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That is all.


We HAD one. WE did NOT work hard enough to KEEP him. A 47 year career as s h ole " do NOTHING" politician took his place. Are WE happy now?


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He enacted California's 10 day waiting period for firearms purchases and banned mountain lion hunting.
A highly overrated conservative.


'xactly, except conservatives don't expand government control and intrusion. Reagan only looks good compared to other bad presidents. We don't need any more red progressives.

What we need is so radically different than what the Ds or Rs can offer people wouldn't know what to make of it. It's be funny were it not tragic.


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We need a cross between Trump and Reagan.

Trump had the ideas and the spine to get things changed.

He didn't have the charisma to influence anyone. He didn't start twitter as a tool, but he did push it to new levels, which I liked, it was how he could reach out directly to people and bypass a biased media. His labelling people with childish names, while playing to staunch Trump folks, did nothing positive.

He had the mechanisms to just stay factual, don't get emotional. Take it to the press, and twitter, but put it out there, when he gets a spending bill but it has pork, go live and show the people what elected officials are handing him. Do it in a fact by fact way, no names, no blame, say "spending bill xxx is being done for supporting American people to get past Covid (example), at $1400/person that's $xxxxxx dollars and I fully support that, add in business support for $yyyyy dollars and I support that, they help you, the American people. I am vetoing it because of this list of other things. Please call your representatives and have them do a clean submission."

Put it out there, show what a joke things are, do it factually, no name calling. AGree with the party line 'It's for the people we need it" , then remove all this other junk.

Trump has good ideas, where he failed was transitioning from CEO to president, when president actually has very little power when compared to a CEO/Chariman of the Board. As president he can't do spending bills, he just approves/rejects them. He totally failed to make that transition. And yes, everyone was against him, but he did little to nothing to shift the focus to them and the waste

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Originally Posted by Stophel
No, we need an American people that really are AMERICANS.

Yep,


Progressives are the most open minded, tolerant, and inclusive people on the planet, as long as you agree with everything they say, and do exactly as you're told.
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No offense, but if you "NEED" a politician, you're already lost.

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