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Yeah, that happened to my young niece. Didn't make it down to the stomach, but got lodged in the esophagus. ER doc went in and got it. No more wire brushes.
I would think with stomach acid having a pH of around 1 or so that the bristle would be broken down fairly quickly. Unless, of course, you're on PPIs or H2s.
I guess if you're reading this Sunday morning that you didn't bleed out overnight, but next time, go to the ER just to be safe.
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Taking all at face value, I remembered this case for its possible apparent similarity:
A young women came to the surgeon via her family doc complaining of vague abdominal pain for some time (I don’t remember the length of time). X-rays were read as negative. I can’t recall if an MRI was done but all physical exams and a barium enema, etc were also read as negative.
Finally, at a loss as to the problem the surgeon decided to do a diagnostic laparoscopy — putting small instruments into her abdomen via a couple small wounds after the abdomen is inflated to give room to work, one a camera and another to manipulate soft tissues allowing visualization. Yes, this is a surgical procedure.
After “running” the small bowel, a small area of inflammation was noted on the distal bowel. A close-up view showed a very small bone had penetrated the bowel incompletely, sticking out about a centimeter and a half. It was removed. Had nothing been done what would have happened? Hard to say, from getting worse and abscess to the small bone being walled off by an inflammatory process. Neither are a comforting resolution.
Post-op, the patient remembered eating fresh fish with rib bones in the meat a week or so earlier.
Steel bristles I know are stiff, non-bending and sharp and will doubtfully make all the small bowel turns easily. If you believe you did swallow steel bristles, you are a step ahead of this lady. I would make preparations to get in to a doc to explain the situation and get direction. Steel bristles should show up on x-rays or other tests and confirm their position to be followed up and at least be watched. It could prevent an emergent situation. If nothing shows, you may not have swallowed anything and be relieved.
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Doesn't anyone chew their food?
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And yes, I believe strongly in a sovereign God and the power of prayer, but also including using our intelligence and reason to work through our decision.
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This happened on an episode of Mystery Diagnosis. The kid dang near died before they figured out what was wrong.
I would get to a doc ASAP.
I read somewhere (might have been on Cook's Country) where you should use a brush that has twisted bristles, not the straight ones that are inserted into a handle. The one that skeward my thumb had a fine twisted bristle. If I swallowed any without knowing, I don't know how it would matter. How to get shards of glass and metal out without high risk surgery that has far more trauma and scar tissue is what I would like educated opinions on. Very curious having left the super pokey glass go and the law suit.
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Where is Slumlord when ya need him, gawd knows he'd have a elixir just for this ailment! Slumlord has excellent insurance and would be at the Endo’s office/ER in 45 mins. Had a couple of endo scopes down the esophagus before. No big deal and you get to have fentanyl. I love that stuff. 👍
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The gut is a pretty fragile organ.
Remember a few years ago when those 5 mm rare earth ball magnet toys were popular? Until a few kids swallowed two balls and got gastroenteritis and or peritonitis. The balls would move down the gut separately until they came along side each other and became attracted through the two walls of the gut. There they would sit, locked together until they perforated one or both sections of the gut.
And those were 5 mm spheres. Not a sharp piece of hardened steel wire.
Urgent care facilities often have X-ray machines and do not charge like an ER. I would be getting abdominal x-rays daily and tracking that thing until it was gone. Even if I had to sleep in the back of my pickup in the clinic's parking lot for a few nights to make it happen.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Old people:
Ice cream and naps.
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Doesn't anyone chew their food? You seen the size a that sucker ? Ain't got time for chewin.
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I thought you self-proclaimed Shaman types had all the answers. Between this and the 'what do I do about my well' thread, I believe a handle change is in order... Don’t forget the “why did my lawn mower tire blow up after I filled it with too much air.”
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Well, I'm done with dinner, and headed to bed. All is well. So far so good.
Leave yourself a note to buy a decent brush just in case you don’t die tonight.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I thought you self-proclaimed Shaman types had all the answers. Between this and the 'what do I do about my well' thread, I believe a handle change is in order... Don’t forget the “why did my lawn mower tire blow up after I filled it with too much air.” The mystery remains.....
I am MAGA.
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I thought you self-proclaimed Shaman types had all the answers. Between this and the 'what do I do about my well' thread, I believe a handle change is in order... Don’t forget the “why did my lawn mower tire blow up after I filled it with too much air.” The mystery remains..... That was a great story. Lol
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Drink a coca cola. My mother swallowed a thumb tak and lived...... its gonna be ok.......seriously.
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If you remember correctly, I told folks about the lawnmower tire in the context of "Life Comes at you Fast." I had no worries as to why it happened. Y'all are swinging wild.
Yes, thank you. I'm awake. I'm apparently healthy. No ill effects so far.
I'm off within the hour to hunt turkeys. Moose and Remnar are both bringing their skirts. Angus and I are going solo. We all have cellphones and walkie-talkies. So far we each have a tag filled.
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--- CAUGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE --- A Magic Time To Be An Illegal In America---
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Back in.
@0900, I had a gob come out of Hootin' Holler and started closing on me. He got within 30 yards and I got my gun up. I was waiting for him to clear some bushes. A few minutes later, he appeared 90 deg off to my right. He circled around below me, and popped up just above the grass. He caught me moving my barrel around and left.
It turns out everyone else had seen him as well. He's started the morning about a 1/4 mile away on the east side of the property. He came around Angus' blind and then took off towards Moose's blind 500 yards away. Moose saw him come up out of the hollow and then veer off towards me.
No aches or pains. I'm feeling blessed.
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Glad to hear you are unperforated and unscored Shaman.
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..." Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay " Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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Did you die>? I'll contribute to your funeral/
I hope you made it though
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Can you put seafoam down there???
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