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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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I hate to give her credit for anything. But she’s correct. It won’t be long after withdrawal, and that place will revert right back to the way it was before the US arrived there. We’ll be right back there intervening before Christmas.

Why would we involve ourselves in a stone age society 1000s of miles across a big ocean? Or for that matter in a fairly modern society such as Ukraine?



Uhhh,,,,,,opiates.


Ukraine? Uhh.....oil and gas.




Yes.
They have to fund the deep state somehow. Drugs have normally been a big part of that equation. Illicit trade bring wealth untold. It’s estimated the underground economy in the US alone is 12% of our GDP worth nearly 2.5 trillion. Just in the US! Think there’s people in high places not getting a huge taste of that?



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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
We consume basically the entire world's supply of opiates Hastings.

We have never tried to shut down production....we try to control production.




And control the revenues generated.



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I saw the ABC Evening News just a few minutes ago. Five minute story, an attack by Taliban near a school, bomb attack as usual, 30 people in the hospital the youngest 10 years old.

This is going to happen, seven times a day for the next year as we pull out. The biggest force in this hell hole is Muslim extremists and they want things back in the Eighth Century, where females wore the Burkha and couldn't go to school, and these Taliban are willing to die to achieve their goal.
In this show on ABC they showed the Afghan Army at the rifle range, shooting their M 16s that we paid for, honestly these guys looked like goofballs to me. Awkward soldiers who had a hard time putting the mag into the rifle.

This reminds me so much of South Vietnam in 1973 when Nixon withdrew our troops. The big question, Could the South Vietnamese Army stand up to the communists?
Well, the answer was, NO! Turned out there wasn't much of a South Vietnamese Army. Look at the South Vietnam flag, half of it is Red and the rest is Yellow.
The vaunted South Vietnamese Army was a puppet army invented by the US. The government of President Thieu was likewise, a puppet government with little real support. The only support was for the communists.

And so it is going to be in Afghanistan. The Afghan Army is going to fold going up against the Taliban. How many billions of dollars, how many young American men killed, how many young Americans with their legs blown off, to push this travesty of a war.

Thank you, Dick Cheney, John Bolton, and President George the Stupid.


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Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Too bad Trump did not arrest anyone, that cost him the white house.


Who would he have turned too to issue tha warrants ?
Who would have executed the warrants ?
Who would have prosecuted ?
Trump seriously underestimated the scope of draining the swamp .
We cheer leaded him on , but toward the end it was looking bleak before Nov. 3rd passed .
We even kept hoping he would pull a rabbit out of a glass hat , but it was clear there was no rabbit in the hat .
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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
We consume basically the entire world's supply of opiates Hastings.

We have never tried to shut down production....we try to control production.
I will stipulate that we have a lot of dope heads consuming a huge portion of the supply. But why would we need to be in Afghanistan? I will stipulate that they produce a lot of opium. Do we need to be there to protect the supply for our dopeheads? Or to try to interrupt the supply? I'm just wondering what are we trying to accomplish in a country where every other world power from the British Empire to the Russians has failed in their efforts to bring them to heel. It seems our money which cannot be retrieved would have been better spent here. Our Army could have been building stuff instead of trying to civilize savages. The most important thing now is to quit throwing good (actually fake) money after bad.


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How about we swap out our military over there with illegal aliens rounded up here. Hell, let's give 'em a deal - 10 illegals for 1 GI.

Might have to deadhead a few flights back, but that doesn't cost much. Better yet, load up some of that "surplus" military equipment we sent over there and bring it back.


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Originally Posted by las
How about we swap out our military over there with illegal aliens rounded up here. Hell, let's give 'em a deal - 10 illegals for 1 GI.

Might have to deadhead a few flights back, but that doesn't cost much. Better yet, load up some of that "surplus" military equipment we sent over there and bring it back.



Hell let’s make it 1,000 illegals to 1 GI; maybe we might make a dent in all of the wetbacks that are ruining my Lone Star State


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Your wonderful Texas government is doing nothing but bitching.

Were I the guy in the wheelchair the NG would have been called up long ago and set up a "new border" 50 yards back from Biden's. It WOULD NOT be crossed anymore than the Berlin wall was.

All the politicans want to do is blame somebody else.

See Germany 1932 if you wanna see what's coming.

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