America would win, depending on what their end objective was. The main reason Stalin did as well as he did was due to American material aid. Cut that off, and the Soviets could not have continued fighting. Oh, and we could always have nuked Moscow.
without nukes, they'd win, given their numbers, length of logistical chain and where both armies ended geographically in May, 1945.
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I read a story once about a German Col that was pissed that every truck they captured was American. "why are the Americans helping the damn communist".
It would have been a bloody stalemate. While the US had every advantage, their chief disadvantage is the fact the war would have been 6,000 miles away, and for Russia it would be on their front porch. Wars are won by logistics, and by 1945 Soviet logistics were all fixed and operating quite well.
we would have won, depending on what you call winning. like iraq, we wouldn't take over the country, but defeating the russian army wouldn't be hard. their logistical chain was terrible. they had a ww1 style build up and attack because, like the germans, they were still using horses for most transport.
so you just remove the supply chain, and if you don't want to attack, wait for the army to surrender. think of the japanese when all their shipping went to the bottom due to our subs.
no nukes available to start with and production wouldn't be available for a while.
once their western army wasted away, might be another revolution. who knows?
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US wins. While the USSR was producing more tanks, mortars and artillery than the US, we were producing severalfold more bombers and fighters. Then there is the atomic bomb. It might have taken us a few months to produce more nukes, but the Soviets were still years away from making their first.
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It would have been a bloody stalemate. While the US had every advantage, their chief disadvantage is the fact the war would have been 6,000 miles away, and for Russia it would be on their front porch. Wars are won by logistics, and by 1945 Soviet logistics were all fixed and operating quite well.
The Soviets didn't have a strategic bombing capability that could compare to that of the UK and US in 1945. The Soviets might be able to build war fighting material deep inside of the Soviet Union, but they would still have to move it to the front for it to be useful and the UK and US could have bombed their transportation network into bits and pieces. Also, B-29s based in China and Japan could have bombed Soviet infrastructure in the far east and B-29s based in Italy and the Iraq/Iran could have bombed the Soviet's primary source of POL in the southern USSR.
After Japan had been defeated, the USMC could have landed invasion forces in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania to free them and open a northern front. They could also have landed in the Crimea to open a southern front.
So I guess I mis-read... If it's all the Allies against the USSR, eventually the USSR would fold. For some crazy reason (probably because I'm crazy), I read that as US vs. USSR.
Without atomic weapons as a deterrent, the Soviets could have rolled through Germany all the way to the Rhine, and both Ike and Zhukov knew it. By mid '45, the Soviets were producing more tanks and almost as many airplanes per day as the USA was.
While we were still dealing with Japan, they could have totally committed to Europe, and had their way with her, although at enormous cost to them.
IMO without using nukes they would prevail if they could fight long enough because Stalin cared nothing about his people. We didn't want to invade Japan because of the losses we would incur. They could fall back and use scorched earth and wait for Winter again.
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