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I thought so anyway... Good case for carrying reloads, but number of rounds, tough call

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I'm a firm believer in not running out of ammo

Mr. Wilson forgets that concealed carriers are not in the cop business. And Mr. Wilson is confused about the meaning of "average".

I know that several on here have said very similar things as the article. But, there are still many on here who think they will only get the fight that they've planned for and their little snub-nose will do the trick. I hope that they never have to have that fight, and if they do, they are right. I hope that I'll never have to get in one of those situations, but if I do I'll be as prepared as I can be for the worst case scenario (both in practice and in what I'm carrying).

If I can't hit 'em with one - I'm done.

While the police are definitely more likely than the average joe to be in a shooting situation, the thought/preparedness process still applies. To think that it wouldn't or couldn't is short-sighted.

Toche'

Are you packing a single shot blackpowder horse pistol? Transition to sabre after the shot?

I read somewhere we the "average" civilian engagement is two-four rounds. I normally carry a 1911 (8+1) 45 or a G=48 (10+1)....plus one spare, but those who choose wheelguns are ok as well.

My moto is prepair for the worst, hope for the best

Standard military thought process....ergo, a 1911

I hope to go to my grave a happy fat old man without ever having to use my gun in self defense. That said, I am happy and fat and working hard on the old part. Anyway, the thinking in TN (where I got my concealed carry permit) was to make you shoot to 21 yards. Now they have changed the process and the longest yardage is 11 yards. The change was due to the thinking "if you are 21 yards away, you have options other than shooting".
If you agree or disagree with that, with that kind of thinking by law makers, the longer the distance, the harder it might be to get a jury to buy the "I was in fear for my life".

I figure that if I was ever in the position of having to shoot at somebody, between nerves and adrenalin, I want all the ammo I can have. Shooting at a target is one thing but the target shooting back is another. YMMV

If anything, another argument in favor of the 9mm. Assuming a moderately sized pistol, like the Glock 19, you've got double the number of rounds in a 1911 without carrying ANY reload and only one reload allows you to fight a small war.

These days, all arguments favor the 9mm. Actual use may vary.

I never was in a gunfight and thought "I don't need all this ammo, I wish I had less."

But, hey, YMMV. I also never though I had enough grenades either......

The only time you can have too much ammo is if you are swimming.

I'm an expert on "Average" see my name. I tote a Mossberg mc1sc with 7+1 and a 6 round spare mag and I'm comfy. Ive learned that folks tend to unass areas because incoming has the right of way. Perhaps I should carry a 3rd magazine or get a pistol caliber carbine oops folks would notice though.

Those "statistics" and "averages" don't mean what many of you think they mean.

Most guys would be better of just ignoring them and preparing for the worst encounter he could reasonably expect to face:

Since 9/11 real gunfighters have proven what works and made that knowledge available to all.

The old boys still try to sound valid but are flailing. the sheriff, ayoob et al were theorists whose time is long past


mike r

After watching many ASP videos of real world videos, I tend to carry a bigger caliber with a reload available. Rarely does it seem a one on one fight...it's usually a planned 2 or 3 on one unsuspecting victim...it seems numbers embolden the criminals and multiple shots scatter them.