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Box lock is a better grade pre-war Sauer 12ga with a second set of cape gun barrels in 12 & 8X57jr with a Weaver K3 60-B P&CH in claw mounts. I used it in Africa for warthog and duiker, steenbuck, etc. I like having one barrel of heavy buck and one rifle round for close cover PG or here for deer and chuckar or grouse hanging out in the same haunts with bird shot, instead of buck.

The drilling is a full sidelock Prussian Sauer made Charles Daly Superior Grade 16 (2 3/4") over 30-30 with the coveted side cock-uncock lever for the rifle. It has a top tang safety, not the Greener side safety, and when one cocks the rifle the rear trigger fires the rifle barrel, then the left shotgun barrel if pulled again. To uncock the rifle all you have to do is hold the lever down, pull the rear trigger, and lift the lever slowly. This my favorite drilling configuration, and I have the 12ga version of the same drilling. They both have the folding tang peep sight and a flip rib mounted rear sight.

Both guns have a lot of drop, which is shoot well. The drilling stock is uncut with the original butt plate.

Ms. Scarlet doesn't care what I carry, as long as we get into birds and I drop a few for her.

slobberslobberdrool - and I don't mean Ms. Scarlet, neither,
as she clearly, visibly has too much class to do such a thing...

I guess I will second this completely. I have a 6 month old english setter who is the most amazing dog I have ever owned. I grew up with labs, and while they are amazing family dogs, they always seem to be a pain in the butt until they get to be a couple years old and calm down a little bit. I always loved the looks of english setters, and a great breeder/trainer lives not to far from me, so when I found he had puppies ready I loaded up the clan, 5 boys(2-17) and my wife and headed to his kennel.

He had a small female setter, 8 weeks old there, well, it was love at first sight and she came home with us. One thing that had always concerned me with setters was how hyper they were. I have done some training with her, real easy stuff, she's only 7 months old or so, and when you get her out hunting she is a complete machine, but as soon as she comes in the house its like someone swaps her with a 10 year old black lab. She lays around and snuggles up to anyone who sits down. She plays with all of the kids. My wife even made me let her sleep on the bed with us. I go on, but I couldn't possibly recommend any dog more than I do her.

That is some nice country there. I back packed a bit of the Greens during the 90s.

Sounds just like my Cookie, a Llewellin. They are English setters for the most part and wonderful hunters and family dogs. Her mother, Ms. Scarlet, sleeps in her bed on the floor in the bedroom until 6:00 a.m., then hopps into bed for another hour every morning.

Setters seem to have a great affinity for man. They live to please us; it is their reason for being...