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My country's data, my state's data, and my county's data for total weekly deaths in Jan 2017 were never matched or exceeded by 2020 or 2021.


total weekly deaths in WA from the CDC.

Those who argue with me point out that thing were worse in Jersey and NYC.
My contention is that if persons with the flu were put in a nursing home wards in 2017 we could have beat NYC and Jersey.

Those that argue with me point out that we had a lockdown that prevented a real pandemic.
I cannot prove that wrong. But they cannot prove that right.

I would point out the lockdown for 2 weeks was to prevent hospital overflow. That never happened in 2020 or 2021. Bait and switch.

When my 90 year old father went to the hospital with pneumonia in Jan 2012, we were told the hospital was full of old people with pneumonia. He died a week later in that hospital.

How to make a hoax:
Make something ordinary seem special
Make something imaginary seem real

This is the quest stated in the OP. The fundamental gross numbers of deaths. Thanks to any who might help ID sources.

I understand the posts that are aimed outside the stated target. Distrust of reported causal data and resulting frustration abound - and for good reason. No claims or predictions here - just attempting to start simple and clear.

Ok I gotcha....I would think that the CDC would be a good starting point. They record the number of deaths based upon the total number of death certificates issued. I think starting with what is considered the “Gold Standard” for the compilation of the raw numbers and break it down from there. I’m sure there are a good many other places one might look to confirm or disprove the CDC ie. CIA fact book, etc. Good luck.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths occurred in the United States (Table). The age-adjusted rate was 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population, an increase of 15.9% from 715.2 in 2019. The highest overall numbers of deaths occurred during the weeks ending April 11, 2020, (78,917) and December 26, 2020 (80,656) (Figure 1). Death rates were lowest among persons aged 5–14 years (13.6) and highest among persons aged ≥85 years (15,007.4); age-adjusted death rates were higher among males (990.5) than among females (689.2).

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Early last year Johns Hopkins started posting graphs of daily total numbers of covid-19 tests administered, daily total number of positives, and daily deaths attributed to the covid-19 virus for each individual state and the total for the entire U.S. as a whole.

Around the middle of the year they all of a sudden not only stopped including daily covid death numbers, they even went so far as to go back and remove all death numbers attributed to covid-19 from their daily posted graphs all the way back to when they first started tracking.

They still continue to post daily covid tests administered and positives numbers graphs every day now but no covid-19 death numbers.

As to CDC's covid-19 figures being reliable, accurate and trustworthy ... Personally, I can't help but question their figures based on their political contribution history.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/17/cdc-employee-political-contributions-democratic-pacs/

Since data and information has been weaponized we will never know the truth. A lie becomes more believable as it ages.

Thanks AcesNeights - on target, as usual.

Waste of time. No trustworthy data out there. It's all agenda driven.