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I’m going broke buying CrossBow and concentrated Round Up at HomeDepot.

I have 15 acres that is a mix of pasture ground with brush and blackberries that are in pockets and surrounding the edges of the pastures.

Anyone using a better concentrated chemical that I should use for a one, maybe two application root kill?

Backpack sprayer and tractor tank sprayer for applying.

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Generic triclopyr.

https://chemicalwarehouse.com/produ...09_2B8QIV1xmtBh3ydQPtEAQYBCABEgJ-FPD_BwE

Twice the concentration of triclopyr as Crossbow, so goes twice as far ($67 a gallon shipped).

You can throw some 2,4-D in with it, (1/2 oz per gallon). 2,4-D is cheap if bought by the gallon.

If you need Round Up (glyphosate), get it at Tractor Supply. You can get it for $50 per 2-1/2 gallons. Enough to make 100-300 gallons of spray...

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Originally Posted by Beaver10
I’m going broke buying CrossBow and concentrated Round Up at HomeDepot.

I have 15 acres that is a mix of pasture ground with brush and blackberries that are in pockets and surrounding the edges of the pastures.

Anyone using a better concentrated chemical that I should use for a one, maybe two application root kill?

Backpack sprayer and tractor tank sprayer for applying.

Thanks,
Beav

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Brother Beav, fwiw I get the 41% concentration Cornerstone derivative in a box of 2, 2.5 gallon containers at a local farm co-op for 80$.

Stuff works well when mixed as directed at 3 ounces per gallon of water. I mix it at 5 ounces per gallon and typically start seeing yellow in 3-4 days.

In our area you can only buy 2, 4D in quart size unless you’re certified. Now, you can buy 10 quarts of it but only in 1 quart plastic jugs. Crazy, I know.

I use a 2.5 gallon hand pump up sprayer, 4 gallon back pack sprayer or the 25 gallon tank sprayer on my UTV,,,,depending on the size of the job.

Hope this helps.


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Girdle or cut, apply Tordon RTU.

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We use Remedy from Tractor Supply. For larger areas, mix w diesel. It has been incredibly successful for me.


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Use Escort and R-11 (surfacant) in October (but before it freezes) for the blackberries. Escort is a wettable powder and works really well on blackberries. When buying glysophate, be attuned to the concentration - some is 46% and some is in the high 50s or low 60s. I only use glysophates where I want to kill everything (i.e along our driveway). Otherwise I use Weedmaster which is a combination of 24d and dicamba. Be careful when using 24d and know whether you are using ester (more volatile) or amine. Ester is more concentrated but does move in the air. Find a Wilco store for chemical purchases. There are lots of generics out there and they all work. You just have to get used to reading and understanding the chemical and their concentration which are listed on the label. The use of surfacants can help. Also, be mindful of the risk of spraying too early in the season. You can burn the leaves off and the plant might look dead, but the leaves died so quickly the chemical wasn't taken into the roots. Every year is different.

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Thanks, Hig and Gents,

I’m ordering up some brush murdering products in the morning.

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Originally Posted by logger
Use Escort and R-11 (surfacant) in October (but before it freezes) for the blackberries. Escort is a wettable powder and works really well on blackberries. When buying glysophate, be attuned to the concentration - some is 46% and some is in the high 50s or low 60s. I only use glysophates where I want to kill everything (i.e along our driveway). Otherwise I use Weedmaster which is a combination of 24d and dicamba. Be careful when using 24d and know whether you are using ester (more volatile) or amine. Ester is more concentrated but does move in the air. Find a Wilco store for chemical purchases. There are lots of generics out there and they all work. You just have to get used to reading and understanding the chemical and their concentration which are listed on the label. The use of surfacants can help. Also, be mindful of the risk of spraying too early in the season. You can burn the leaves off and the plant might look dead, but the leaves died so quickly the chemical wasn't taken into the roots. Every year is different.


I've been told Escort is hard on trees if applied within the root zone.

Have no experience with it around trees, but I always take caution as I've seen law suits and other horror stories.

Read that label and make sure you have a good idea what the product you are using is capable of.


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Originally Posted by 4winds
Any recommendations for English Ivy?



Yeah, don't plant it! smile


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Don't buy roundup name brand. It's out of patent now and a bunch of different makers sell generic versions much cheaper. Go to your co-op or farm store, or tractor supply as mentioned, and ask for 41% glyphosate, that's standard run of the mill Roundup that people have used for years. I keep several 2.5 gallon jugs in the shop, I'll buy a few more when I catch them at a good price somewhere. Last year I bought several when my co-op had them for $30 each.

I have ordered them from Rural King before when I caught them cheap, the savings made up for the shipping costs. Here's a link to one of the brands of generic roundup, it's not a very good price at $45 for a 2.5 gal jug but it shows what to look for. It's sold under several different brands, the key is to look at the label and see 41% glyphosate.

https://www.ruralking.com/catalog/product/view/id/99467

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Also, another cheap generic is 2,4D Amine. As a general rule glyphosate works best for grasses and 2,4D kills leafy stuff better. If you really want to nuke something mix glyphosate and 2,4D in your sprayer. 2,4D is a major component of Crossbow.

Someone mentioned adding surfactant, that helps also. You can buy the surfactant sold at the farm store, usually called crop oil, for an exorbitant price or you can stop by the dollar store on your way home and buy a bottle of the cheapest dishwashing soap they have and use it for the same purpose, it works just as well.

Generic 2,4D and generic glyphosate along with dishwashing soap for a surfactant will work for just about anything the average guy wants to kill. Many other good products have been mentioned but they're not cheap, such as Escort which works well but costs a fortune. I want to kill weeds and not have to go in debt to do it.

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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Many other good products have been mentioned but they're not cheap, such as Escort which works well but costs a fortune. I want to kill weeds and not have to go in debt to do it.


Escort is what? $50 a pound? 1 ounce per acre?

Stuff is way cheap!


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About $100 for 16 ozs from what I can see, though there may be a generic now.

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Even at $100, that's $6.25 an acre.

Cheap AF.


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I always had better luck with dicamba than 2,4-d.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I always had better luck with dicamba than 2,4-d.



Dicamba works great on plants that it works great on.

Helena has a product out called HardBall that is neither an amine nor ester based 2,4-D. Super low volatility and kills plants on par with the best ester based products. I've only made applications at 96 degrees at this point, but I've had zero movement. I don't intend to push the temps any further, but it's amazing to have in my tool box.


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Oof da!

I usually quit spraying at 90.


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