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Originally Posted by Slavek
It comes down to vaccination rates. If certain percentage of population does not become vaccinated Covid will be back in force in about three months time.


See if you and Old Poot can pool your change and get some blue light special PPE from Kmart . Phugking kghunt


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This article from the Lancet last Feb shows how corrupted science and research is now

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30418-9/fulltext


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CORRESPONDENCE| VOLUME 395, ISSUE 10226, E42-E43, MARCH 07, 2020
Statement in support of the scientists, public health professionals, and medical professionals of China combatting COVID-19

Charles Calisher
Dennis Carroll
Rita Colwell
Ronald B Corley
Peter Daszak
Christian Drosten
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Published:February 19, 2020DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(20)30418-9
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We are public health scientists who have closely followed the emergence of 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and are deeply concerned about its impact on global health and wellbeing. We have watched as the scientists, public health professionals, and medical professionals of China, in particular, have worked diligently and effectively to rapidly identify the pathogen behind this outbreak, put in place significant measures to reduce its impact, and share their results transparently with the global health community. This effort has been remarkable.
We sign this statement in solidarity with all scientists and health professionals in China who continue to save lives and protect global health during the challenge of the COVID-19 outbreak. We are all in this together, with our Chinese counterparts in the forefront, against this new viral threat.
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The rapid, open, and transparent sharing of data on this outbreak is now being threatened by rumours and misinformation around its origins. We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin. Scientists from multiple countries have published and analysed genomes of the causative agent, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2),1 and they overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife,2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 as have so many other emerging pathogens.11, 12 This is further supported by a letter from the presidents of the US National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine13 and by the scientific communities they represent. Conspiracy theories do nothing but create fear, rumours, and prejudice that jeopardise our global collaboration in the fight against this virus. We support the call from the Director-General of WHO to promote scientific evidence and unity over misinformation and conjecture.14 We want you, the science and health professionals of China, to know that we stand with you in your fight against this virus.
We invite others to join us in supporting the scientists, public health professionals, and medical professionals of Wuhan and across China. Stand with our colleagues on the frontline!
We speak in one voice. To add your support for this statement, sign our letter online. LM is editor of ProMED-mail. We declare no competing interests.




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Originally Posted by hatari

I read a 2008 ± paper on SARS that Faucci co-authered that talked of the effectiveness of hydroxychlorquine, yet in 2020 none of them were for it even though Covid shares 79%± of the same code that SARS has. Incredible.


The effectiveness of HCQ as a treatment for CoV2 was never realistically tested in 2020. The first anecdotal reports of its effectiveness came out and sounded encouraging, and then Trump jumped on the bandwagon and that was the death-knell for HCQ. The, best evidence for its effectiveness was the Ford Hospitals system's numbers in Michigan, which was of course dismissed as not being a RCT. It was a very good cohort study, but no matter. Suddenly the media insisted that only RCT's were valid scientific evidence, and every newbie Facebook Expert on Virology and Pharmacology agreed with them.

Up until late August I was avidly reading medical news and journals, looking for some definitive proof one way or the other, and I was utterly dismayed to see RCT trial after RCT being announced with glaring problems in their design. It was crystal clear that these trials were being set up to fail. Now, I'm a seasoned critic of the medical literature, but this effort on the part of multiple granting agencies around the world to produce a predetermined result shook my faith. Not my faith in science, but my faith in the integrity of the people who get paid to do science.

I haven't looked at HCQ studies since last August... what's the point? The fix was clearly in. I think we might see some real results now, if anyone actually did a real study, but I doubt the granting agencies will fund it.

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