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Originally Posted by efw

Being patted on the head like a baby Robin who needs someone else to partially digest the worm before being fed is insulting.

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Eric, couldn't hep thinking of detective shows where they feel they have to add dialogue between a Detective and an examiner like " Luminal ,as you know. is used to show blood stains and splatter that are invisible to the naked eye" - or other obvious bit of info anyone in that field would have learned well before hand.

As far as the F word over use. I am working on it buddy. You didn't have my Dad as a teacher. :-) Wish I was a cleaner talker and less reactionary responder. Work in progress.


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What Rocky elucidated.

I play with water a bit and find big words useful. If you bitch slap a lay audience with a few at the start they are unlikely to ask idiotic questions. EX: hydrogeology, transmissivity, micrograms, BS, MS, PHD.


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Thanks Rocky. Well said. Also the ones who try to use the F word as much as possible render it meaningless. Be Well, RZ.


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A trio of sightless rodents
A trio of sightless rodents.
Perceive the unusual manner in which the proceed to scamper about.
They all give chase to the agriculturalist's spouse
Who proceeded to sever their appendages with a carving utensil.
In all your natural born days of existence did you ever perceive such an unusual phenomena as a trio of sightless rodents?


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Originally Posted by the_shootist
A trio of sightless rodents
A trio of sightless rodents.
Perceive the unusual manner in which the proceed to scamper about.
They all give chase to the agriculturalist's spouse
Who proceeded to sever their appendages with a carving utensil.
In all your natural born days of existence did you ever perceive such an unusual phenomena as a trio of sightless rodents?

Three cheers for the Shootist!


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It's all about attempting to communicate.

Being human, our individual personalities come into play, making the conversation difficult or even impossible to understand.

From the speaker's perspective, some who are considerate, actually begin by listening to or already knowing, the level of the intended recipient(s) and adjusting their vocabulary so as to not confuse or embarrass the listener(s) while successfully conveying information.

Others, as pointed out earlier, intentionally speak at another level in order to impress, browbeat, or just plain annoy others. For these folks the technical term "ass-hat" applies.

I've always been taught that words matter. Words have power to create, convey, damage, or even destroy. I've always tried to be as precise as possible when I speak or write for I despise miscommunication. Life seems a whole lot easier when I can accurately communicate with people.

One of my favorite quotes is; "The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has actually taken place." George Bernard Shaw

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This has been an interesting thread - thanks. It has stirred some thinking here.

I have never considered the term "education' to be a noun - all verb. The development of an expansive and diverse vocabulary is important to some people as they educate themselves. They see vocabulary as a tool for learning and for precise outgoing communication. Apparently, vocabulary is less important to others - and much less important to some.

We see the criticism of those who use "big words" - and statements that those are needless, or used for egotistical reasons, etc., etc.. . Such views are natural expressions of human nature.

Some aphorisms seem to apply: "The ignorant tend to hate that which they do not understand". "Communication is a two way street" (traffic problem if the receiving party can't grasp the sender's terms). "You think you are better than me because you use those big words" (this is the mind reader). Etc.

Some folks choose to use a Mercedes, others a Porsche, others a Cadillac, others a Ford, etc. Is there something personally offensive among those choices?

Some rifle shooters choose to use the Sako, others the Barrett Fieldcraft, others the Ruger, others the Savage, etc. Is there something personally offensive among those choices?

What actually drives our negative comments about the more erudite or complex words others choose to use?


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This guy does the three little pigs with Shakespearean style


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Originally Posted by mathman
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Students entering the ed major have the lowest SAT scores yet still come out of the major with the highest grades.
Interesting statement. Kindly post the unimpeachable source for this data or, better yet, the data itself. Thanks.


http://i.bnet.com/blogs/education-major-study.pdf

I had been reading an article which included a reference to this study.

And, after a quick perusal of the linked paper, may I enquire as to your thoughts on the author's work?

What math I saw seemed reasonable, given my absence from the science field for a few years in my retirement. I may have missed something.

Based on his "observation" of the gathered data, his conclusions appeared reasonable.

Did I miss something?


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Originally Posted by CCCC
...What actually drives our negative comments about the more erudite or complex words others choose to use?


Personalities, insecurities, arrogance, but...primarily ignorance.

Ed


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Originally Posted by CCCC
This has been an interesting thread - thanks. It has stirred some thinking here.

I have never considered the term "education' to be a noun - all verb. The development of an expansive and diverse vocabulary is important to some people as they educate themselves. They see vocabulary as a tool for learning and for precise outgoing communication. Apparently, vocabulary is less important to others - and much less important to some.

We see the criticism of those who use "big words" - and statements that those are needless, or used for egotistical reasons, etc., etc.. . Such views are natural expressions of human nature.

Some aphorisms seem to apply: "The ignorant tend to hate that which they do not understand". "Communication is a two way street" (traffic problem if the receiving party can't grasp the sender's terms). "You think you are better than me because you use those big words" (this is the mind reader). Etc.

Some folks choose to use a Mercedes, others a Porsche, others a Cadillac, others a Ford, etc. Is there something personally offensive among those choices?

Some rifle shooters choose to use the Sako, others the Barrett Fieldcraft, others the Ruger, others the Savage, etc. Is there something personally offensive among those choices?

What actually drives our negative comments about the more erudite or complex words others choose to use?


good stuff C's.



Some folks think golf is a "sport" too.


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I prefer to use Big Words when speaking . . .

"I've been stretching my mouth
to let those big words come right out"

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Originally Posted by MuskegMan

I prefer to use Big Words when speaking . . .

"I've been stretching my mouth
to let those big words come right out"

Another good one!


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Malapropisms then abound.


I heard if you have one of those for more than 4 hours, you are supposed to call your doctor.

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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Originally Posted by CCCC
...What actually drives our negative comments about the more erudite or complex words others choose to use?


Personalities, insecurities, arrogance, but...primarily ignorance.

Ed

Or experience. No one enjoys being "talked down to" by an arrogant person who had the benefit of an education. I live near the University of California at Davis, and work in San Francisco. I am often dismissed by people merely because I lack a degree. It matters not if I am more experienced and knowledgeable in some cases, or even a subject matter expert in others.

But Ed nailed it. Personalities.

This place has a lot of them but they tend to be the good ones.


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I didn't study it that hard, and I freely admit to a degree of confirmation bias.

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Originally Posted by mathman
I didn't study it that hard, and I freely admit to a degree of confirmation bias.


laugh

(oh, agreed, being a science major wink )


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Years ago I was on the subway heading to Southie and a guy stepped aboard with a bunch of other passengers. Immediately, the fella sitting next to me jumps up and excitedly walks over and embraces this guy who just came on. "My God it's Tom Flanagan! How long's it been, brother? Ten years? Man, the times we used to have! Great to see you and you're looking very robust, Tommy!" Tommy looks a little sheepish and responds with, "Yeah, I been pretty robust for a few years. Just got out of the joint last month after doing 5 years in Concord (state prison)" I belly laughed.

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Yikes!


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Your terminology is too copious for my diminutive comprehension. If you wish to converse with me please enunciate more explicitly!!

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