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I got tired of pulling ramps so I went with a PJ tilt bed with a 6' deck on the front. Has a tool box for straps with a built in winch with battery compartment.7K axels with brakes on both. LED lighting is a must. This way I cant drag bottom and damage the undercarriage. My next will have the electric powered hydraulic jack.

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What Rockinbbar says. I have a bunch of trailers, it takes years to find out what's fits best, because your toys grow, tractors, trucks , dozers . l went and got 20 ft. steel deck, 16 inch wheel , 7500 # ax. heavy removeable ramps , my 2500 and 3500 trks all weigh 9 to 12-K , so you need strong trailer to haul just them .

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Right now my main thing to haul is material for the fabrication side of my business and at times the finished product. I've been using a utility trailer for this for quite a while. This October we have an elk hunt planned in Colorado and on this trip I want to take my Jeep. I have,'t checked it on a scale but I'm guessing 3500 lbs. But as many of you have said going a little bigger is good. A 10,000 pound rated trailer would likely cover everything I need and in an 18 foot with a 2 ft. bevertail. My tow rig is my 1997 F250 with a 460.
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Says here CJ-7 has curb weight of 2707lbs. Plus your additions.

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Thanks Bruce.

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Remember the weight rating of a trailer, GVWR, is the weight of the trailer and the load it carries. If buying a trailer to haul cars I would think you would want to get one that would haul the largest car you might expect to have and need to move. That is what I did in my case.

My truck is a Ford F250 Super Duty Crew Cab which weights somewhere around 7000# with fuel and other excessories such as tools. I used that vehicle as the maximum vehicle size I may move, and it also was convenient that my tractor also weight somewhere around 7000#. The truck is also a little over 20ft long which meant a 20ft trailer. Now in my research I found that 20ft trailers weighed somewhere around 3000# so adding my trucks weight, or tractor, at 7000# the GVWR would need to be somewhere north of 10,000#. I went with a 14000# GVWR trailer which give some additional weight capacity for added safety and the cost of a 14000# vs 10000# trailer was minimal compared to the total cost.

This of course was what is needed to fit my needs and your needs may be different but I would suggest you go through the same thought process I did to determine the best size to fit your needs now and the future.

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What I notice a lot of guys do when buying car haulers is they don't pay attention to the details- Where and how many tie downs do they have? Are the tie downs appropriate for car hauling or just for tieing down loads? Is the trailer deck wide enough between the fenders to load your vehicle on it without taking off the fenders? Does it have storage under the trailer for the loading ramps?

These are just some of the issues you may run into and I've seen guys I know realize they didn't think of them after they already bought a trailer they couldn't use....

If you're planning on using it to rescue vehicles that may not be under power to load, a box in the front for a battery and a winch to load dead vehicles is a good investment and the battery can be tied into your charging system on your tow vehicle pretty easily...


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Originally Posted by stxhunter
make sure you get a good wench for it.

What? A wench or a winch? If a winch, what pull recommendation.I just redecked my car hauler and welded on a tube for a receiver hitch to mount the winch, so it's removeable.. Will a 3,500 lb. Superwinch work?

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This one is not far from me and in stock. https://www.lemens-equipment.com/inventory-listing.php?id=1166

$ 4,290.00

18ft (16+2) 12k Tandem Axle Flatbed Trailer with Dovetail
82" between the fenders
Trailer weight 2,660lbs
6" main frame
5" channel wrap tongue
3" channel cross members, 16" on center
Two 6000lb easy lube axles(6 yr warranty)
1 brake axle
New 235/80 R16 10ply radial tires and wheels
8k Dropleg jack
4 d-rings & stake pockets
Tread plate fenders w/supports
#1 treated 2x8 lumber(screwed down)
Adjustable coupler with bulldog 2 5/16
DOT tape
Tube front rail
4ft ramps and ramp storage
Spare tire mount (tire & wheel extra)
7 way round RV plug
LED lights

Axle: Tandem 6000lb
Brake: One Brake Axle
Color: Black
Coupler: Adjustable 2 5/16 inch
Fenders: Diamond Plate Fenders
Jack: 8k Dropleg Jack
Loading: 14in Slide in Ramps
Tires: 235/80R16 10 Ply Radial

Location: Eldon
Body Style: Flatbed Trailer
EXTERIOR: Black
Curb Weight: 2660
GVWR: 12000
VIN #: 7L4BF2229MA001436
CONDITION: new
WARRANTY: yes

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Originally Posted by Jim1611
This one is not far from me and in stock. https://www.lemens-equipment.com/inventory-listing.php?id=1166

$ 4,290.00

18ft (16+2) 12k Tandem Axle Flatbed Trailer with Dovetail
82" between the fenders
Trailer weight 2,660lbs
6" main frame
5" channel wrap tongue
3" channel cross members, 16" on center
Two 6000lb easy lube axles(6 yr warranty)
1 brake axle
New 235/80 R16 10ply radial tires and wheels
8k Dropleg jack
4 d-rings & stake pockets
Tread plate fenders w/supports
#1 treated 2x8 lumber(screwed down)
Adjustable coupler with bulldog 2 5/16
DOT tape
Tube front rail
4ft ramps and ramp storage
Spare tire mount (tire & wheel extra)
7 way round RV plug
LED lights

Axle: Tandem 6000lb
Brake: One Brake Axle
Color: Black
Coupler: Adjustable 2 5/16 inch
Fenders: Diamond Plate Fenders
Jack: 8k Dropleg Jack
Loading: 14in Slide in Ramps
Tires: 235/80R16 10 Ply Radial

Location: Eldon
Body Style: Flatbed Trailer
EXTERIOR: Black
Curb Weight: 2660
GVWR: 12000
VIN #: 7L4BF2229MA001436
CONDITION: new
WARRANTY: yes



Not a bad price for what it is!

Seems to suit your description of what you need.

Better get it before someone else does. wink

Looking at the photos, I see it doesnt have stake pockets, but a couple of D rings on each side. Just make sure you have enough places to secure your load.

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We have a PJ 16' with the heavy axles, it works for what we need.


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Originally Posted by Jim1611
Thanks guys. I'm still looking and calling. No rush on this but I do want one before September. I do think I'll go with the 10,000 pound rating. The extra cost really isn't that much.

Be sure to include trailer weight in your GVWR calculations.


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Not a bad price for what it is!

Seems to suit your description of what you need.

Better get it before someone else does. wink

Looking at the photos, I see it doesnt have stake pockets, but a couple of D rings on each side. Just make sure you have enough places to secure your load.
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I didn't see any stake pockets either but it's hard to tell in the pictures. I can weld some on myself though and a rub rail makes for a good tie down at times too.

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Originally Posted by Jim1611
Thanks guys. I'm still looking and calling. No rush on this but I do want one before September. I do think I'll go with the 10,000 pound rating. The extra cost really isn't that much.

Be sure to include trailer weight in your GVWR calculations.


Good advice. This trailer I posted the specs on is rated at 12,000 lbs. That would more than handle what I plan to haul. The Jeep weighs about 3000, extra camping gear we might have would be under 500 lbs. The trailer weighs close to 3000 lbs. so I'd be way under with my planned load. I could also haul a full size pickup if I wanted or had the need to.

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