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One of our strengths is diversity.
Diversity is our stench. For Christ's sake read the post and think. I was hitting on our mixed attributes. Urban/rural and ag/industry. The diversity kind of fit. And was thrown in for humor. And even gave a hint. Ho-li-phudge! No wonder we fought a civil war. People are so dam one sided and ready to prove themselves right they get offended at a nothing joke. That's pointed out as a joke! I got your post and mine was a play off it. Sheesh. Hold into the prickly.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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Biden didn't win the election.
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The construct of our republic is as close to perfect as any nation could hope. But our country was still very young at the time of the Civil War and there were legitimate disagreements on many issues from both sides.
In the end, the fact that the United States remained united caused our nation to be stronger.
The south was not wrong. The north was not wrong. Both sides had their reasons to fight at the time and it is absurd to question or undermine any American’s choice to fight in that war. Especially given the luxury of hindsight in 2021.
That war was the product of growing pains that were inevitable to occur in a republic like ours. All the men that fought in that war should be revered, and honored. All of them.
The Flave outdid himself here. No one is gonna top this post. Not a dam chance. Some will argue it though. Because you said their opposition wasn't completely, dead nuts, 1050%, totally, completely WRONG! And "tupid too! The vast majority of Civil War conversations are taken part by people that have a preconceived notion about the war. It ends up being "the books I read are right, the books you read were wrong." Southerners are the worst about it. Obviously.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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You don’t have to read a book to hate Yankees. I’ll take three Mexicans for every Yankee we get to throw in the ocean.
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The south didnt fight a war to keep slaves. They fought because they were attacked. They simply fought back. I've read most of the declarations of independence published by each of the southers states. Preserving slavery was mentioned as the prime cause of their secession. I don't recallany mention of being attacked. No you haven’t, or you wouldn’t say that. Statements of Causes..... https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states...and the Confederate Veep on the causes of Secession... https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/cornerstone-speech
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I can say this about the Civil War. The government at that time, ran by Lincoln sent it's army into a state over reasons that have been debated since that day. That state fought back. Fast forward to today. When and if the president of whatever time uses armed forces against it's own citizens there will already be a propaganda play book in use to make it so all the blame falls on the side that opposes the federal government. You can bank on that.
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I can say this about the Civil War. The government at that time, ran by Lincoln sent it's army into a state over reasons that have been debated since that day. That state fought back. Fast forward to today. When and if the president of whatever time uses armed forces against it's own citizens there will already be a propaganda play book in use to make it so all the blame falls on the side that opposes the federal government. You can bank on that. They will produce their "Emancipation Proclamation" to sanctify their cause.
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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
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Have their round haunches gored."
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There are five states there. There were eleven in the Confederacy. Now tell me what event caused the last four states to join the Confederacy. And I knew someone would drag out the Alexander Stephens speech. Tell me how you will feel being judged in history for a speech given by Kamala Harris. Does she represent your views? Does she represent the views of the people you know? The views of your state? The views of your state legislature? Or is she a politician saying things that may or may not be true for her own reasons?
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Southerners hating Yankees, Yankees hating Southerners.
The middle off the U.S. hating those on the coasts.
Everyone absolutely Despising California...
All I know is that conservatives need to band together where ever they can be found. Things are going to get dicey and its not going to be a regional conflict. It's going to be a fundamental and moral conflict.
Know your Enemy.
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Southerners hating Yankees, Yankees hating Southerners.
The middle off the U.S. hating those on the coasts.
Everyone absolutely Despising California...
All I know is that conservatives need to band together where ever they can be found. Things are going to get dicey and its not going to be a regional conflict. It's going to be a fundamental and moral conflict.
Know your Enemy. In the manner that my Southern friends interpret/utilize the term Yankee……..I hate them too. Used in simply the geographic sense, I don’t much give a phuque who dislikes me based on my location.
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�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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Yankee isn’t strictly a geographic term. It can be, but it is a bit more specific than that. Though it would be true to state that since slightly before the Civil War and mostly since, Yankees have hijacked the national government, set policy, and determined what is and isn’t “American”.
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I can say this about the Civil War. The government at that time, ran by Lincoln sent it's army into a state over reasons that have been debated since that day. That state fought back. Fast forward to today. When and if the president of whatever time uses armed forces against it's own citizens there will already be a propaganda play book in use to make it so all the blame falls on the side that opposes the federal government. You can bank on that. The playbook will be the same. They’ll still be fighting backwards racists who wish to subjugate a race of noble and long suffering black people.
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In Canada, a black from Mississippi is a yank.
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In Canada, a black from Mississippi is a yank. Is yank Canadian for son-in-law?
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You don’t have to read a book to hate Yankees. I’ll take three Mexicans for every Yankee we get to throw in the ocean. LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Yankee isn’t strictly a geographic term. It can be, but it is a bit more specific than that. Though it would be true to state that since slightly before the Civil War and mostly since, Yankees have hijacked the national government, set policy, and determined what is and isn’t “American”. “Yankee” means whatever a person wants it to mean. Same as n—-er. “Texan” on the other hand… LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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In Canada, a black from Mississippi is a yank. NGAF what anything means in Canaduh. At all.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Yankee isn’t strictly a geographic term. It can be, but it is a bit more specific than that. Though it would be true to state that since slightly before the Civil War and mostly since, Yankees have hijacked the national government, set policy, and determined what is and isn’t “American”. “Yankee” means whatever a person wants it to mean. Same as n—-er. “Texan” on the other hand… LOL Nope, Yankee is actually a fairly specific historical term. It’s probably 300 years old at least.
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One of our strengths is diversity.
Diversity is our stench. For Christ's sake read the post and think. I was hitting on our mixed attributes. Urban/rural and ag/industry. The diversity kind of fit. And was thrown in for humor. And even gave a hint. Ho-li-phudge! No wonder we fought a civil war. People are so dam one sided and ready to prove themselves right they get offended at a nothing joke. That's pointed out as a joke! I got your post and mine was a play off it. Sheesh. Hold into the prickly. I did. About 3 feet too far! 
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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I don't think anyone can prove that Lincoln was into Marx. Read this article; https://www.aier.org/article/was-lincoln-really-into-marx/It serves no one to attack each other especially over a war that was settled long ago. I have no animosity toward anyone or any color. I have plenty of demons to fight with democrats running rampant destroying our Nation and stealing elections with corruption.
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Lincoln was a decent man. We all have flaws and he did attempt to mollify the southern demands but extending slavery to new territories was not one of his options. He had to fight his own government and prosecute the war at the same time.
I vehemently disagree with your view on Abraham Lincoln. He was a thug who surrounded himself with atheists, socialists, Communists, Red Republicans, and Jacobins. Too damn bad Booth didn’t shoot that POS before the Election.
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