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Evangelicals and Baptists never believed in the flat earth theories that atheists tried to discredit "christianity" with. It was the non biblical views that led to the flat earth hypothesis. I don't debate it because atheist just lie and say it has something to do with Christianity and mix in their religion of evil-ution as if THAT'S scientific law. It's a matter of what the bible describes, not what atheists say. The Bible does Not describe what atheists have falsely accused Christians of believing. There is a fringe group that believe that pancake hypothesis. Some of them claim to be christian, thus twist the Bible to agree with their claims. I have heard groups of them and have yet to find one christian among them. What you claim atheists say, what atheists actually say may be different. The issue is not what you say, what I say, what Christians say or what atheists say, but what the bible says, what the bible describes. Eisegesis….. you have a bad case of it. Either the bible says what it says, or it doesn't. I don't try to transform what is said into something it doesn't say. If Genesis describes literal days of creation, morning and evening of the first day, morning and evening of the second day, etc, I don't, for instance, try to interpret this to mean eons.
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Either the bible says what it says, or it doesn't. I don't try to transform what is said into something it doesn't say. If Genesis describes literal days of creation, morning and evening of the first day, morning and evening of the second day, etc, I don't, for instance, try to interpret this to mean eons. If the supernatural creator lives at the center of the universe, how could we possibly know how long his day is? Our solar system revolves around the sun, Our entire solar system is a miniscule part of our Milky Way Galaxy. I assume our galaxy in turns revolves around something. Wonder if maybe the Lord's day might easily be billions of years. There is a lot out there that is pretty hard to get your mind around. A billion is a thing hard to grasp.
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Either the bible says what it says, or it doesn't. I don't try to transform what is said into something it doesn't say. If Genesis describes literal days of creation, morning and evening of the first day, morning and evening of the second day, etc, I don't, for instance, try to interpret this to mean eons. If the supernatural creator lives at the center of the universe, how could we possibly know how long his day is? Our solar system revolves around the sun, Our entire solar system is a miniscule part of our Milky Way Galaxy. I assume our galaxy in turns revolves around something. Wonder if maybe the Lord's day might easily be billions of years. There is a lot out there that is pretty hard to get your mind around. A billion is a thing hard to grasp. Genesis specifies the morning and evening of each day of creation. This description, a morning and an evening of each day relates to Earth normal days.
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Right now I am on a job where two of the people believe the earth is flat! He showed me a video proving the earth is flat, and says anything I show him has been Photoshopped Most likely, these two are illegal aliens. I listened to the contractor and one of them argue for an hour yesterday. Later I told the contractor “don’t ever do that again”
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Right now I am on a job where two of the people believe the earth is flat! He showed me a video proving the earth is flat, and says anything I show him has been Photoshopped Most likely, these two are illegal aliens. I listened to the contractor and one of them argue for an hour yesterday. Later I told the contractor “don’t ever do that again” Maybe this is a faster growing trend than I thought.
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Right now I am on a job where two of the people believe the earth is flat! He showed me a video proving the earth is flat, and says anything I show him has been Photoshopped Most likely, these two are illegal aliens. I listened to the contractor and one of them argue for an hour yesterday. Later I told the contractor “don’t ever do that again” Maybe this is a faster growing trend than I thought. Likely it's a product of public education. They dropped science to make time for Black History.
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We are in the process of replacing a barn, the east end door will be four feet higher than the concrete to the South!
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This place has it's fair share of stick in the mud's.
I just though it'd be good for a laugh. It is, and you had to know some would try to make it into something serious...I think there is a video out there somewhere, by someone who says they have "Doctor" credentials-geophysical no doubt, or maybe astronomical-who proves the earth is flat. It should show up here shortly. And the believers will flock up, some will turn it biblical and then it should go 15 plus pages..Someone will mention they drove the wife and kids around the world in a Subaru to disprove the theory. Someone will scream faagg and Biden voter.
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Either the bible says what it says, or it doesn't. I don't try to transform what is said into something it doesn't say. If Genesis describes literal days of creation, morning and evening of the first day, morning and evening of the second day, etc, I don't, for instance, try to interpret this to mean eons. If the supernatural creator lives at the center of the universe, how could we possibly know how long his day is? Our solar system revolves around the sun, Our entire solar system is a miniscule part of our Milky Way Galaxy. I assume our galaxy in turns revolves around something. Wonder if maybe the Lord's day might easily be billions of years. There is a lot out there that is pretty hard to get your mind around. A billion is a thing hard to grasp. Genesis specifies the morning and evening of each day of creation. This description, a morning and an evening of each day relates to Earth normal days. Got to be careful about taking some bible writings too literally. Like people living 900 years or a self appointed apostle getting transported to 3rd heaven and reporting it as fact.
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Genesis specifies the morning and evening of each day of creation. This description, a morning and an evening of each day relates to Earth normal days. Got to be careful about taking some bible writings too literally. Like people living 900 years or a self appointed apostle getting transported to 3rd heaven and reporting it as fact. When Christ told his apostles that he would return, they thought he meant “in their lifetime” 2,000 years later and we still wait. You have to consider the clock God uses as time is only measured unto men.
I was thinking the other day how much I used to hate Bill Clinton. He was freaking George Washington compared to what they are now.
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Yeah, I thought it was all in good fun too...apparently not, beware of strangers offering you a glass of kool aid.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Anyone who thinks the world is flat is a dumbass.
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Sunday Bible school is now in session....and those who can only guess are teaching the class...
And that is funny!!!!!
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Yup! Make a joke, and somebody will take it serious, post serious, and here come the jokes.
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Do you know if you flattened out Pennsylvania it would be bigger than Texas? Think about that for a moment....
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The theme of the Bible isn’t to answer every question in the universe. It gives the Crib note version to lay the groundwork. “In the beginning….” It doesn’t say when the the beginning was, but the translation of the Hebrew is “dateless past”. Where do people get the idea that the Bible promotes a flat earth? Scripture says, “He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth” Isaiah 40:22
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Right now I am on a job where two of the people believe the earth is flat! He showed me a video proving the earth is flat, and says anything I show him has been Photoshopped Most likely, these two are illegal aliens. I listened to the contractor and one of them argue for an hour yesterday. Later I told the contractor “don’t ever do that again” Maybe this is a faster growing trend than I thought. Likely it's a product of public education. They dropped science to make time for Black History. Juneteenth and Transvestite Story Time to make sure everyone grows up inclusive.
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The theme of the Bible isn’t to answer every question in the universe. It gives the Crib note version to lay the groundwork. “In the beginning….” It doesn’t say when the the beginning was, but the translation of the Hebrew is “dateless past”. Where do people get the idea that the Bible promotes a flat earth? Scripture says, “He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth” Isaiah 40:22 There's a lot of Scripture like that good one you just quoted. It used to be that the only ones who would bring flat earth up would be accusations the atheists would ascribe to christians. They would take the side of Columbus supposed that the Bible was wrong because some Vatican dogma. They were taught that Columbus had nothing to do with God and the ignorant Catholic monks didn't want any competing theories on their flat earth theory. So, the atheists would superimpose that upon Bible believing christians. Now there's a fairly new trend of the flat earthers that want to borrow our Bible to "prove" their obsession. It doesn't, but they do a good job of wresting the Scriptures and teaching "science falsely so called." That said, I am glad you stand on the Bible the right way with Isaiah. On the first subject, the age of the earth from the time of creation is determined by the genealogies and ages given. I'm not a Hebrew scholar, but there were those who were at the time of Christ. Since then, the world's most renounced translators of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries were used by the Lord to give us accurate english translations. I don't think the Dead Sea sect offers any improvement, nor the Egyptian. So many words have synonyms. However, Jesus quoted Genesis the same way it was translated as we have it in the majority text and KJV. In order for the Hindu religion of evolution to be believable to the average person, it is given unlimited time for chance to turn disorder into the complex order of our humanity. For a hundred years, the liberal higher critics have organized in seminaries to influence all denominations to this end. If they can insert an unlimited amount of time upon Genesis 1, they have effectively used the tactic that the serpent used with Eve. This undermines the rest of God's Word and provides for the possibility of the Hindu religious beliefs that pass for science in government training centers/schools.
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The Earth can't be flat. If it was, millions of years of cats would have knocked everything off.
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Right now I am on a job where two of the people believe the earth is flat! He showed me a video proving the earth is flat, and says anything I show him has been Photoshopped Most likely, these two are illegal aliens. I listened to the contractor and one of them argue for an hour yesterday. Later I told the contractor “don’t ever do that again” Maybe this is a faster growing trend than I thought. Most things are contrary to your “thought”. Let me know if you toggle again.
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