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Originally Posted by ironbender
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gotta ask. Why do you need a electric fence around camp?

We have bears. Also intend to use it for horses. Maybe near home where extension cords won’t reach.

makes sense. I should have checked your location

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Here's one that popular with backpackers for bear fences, sold by UDAP.COM. It uses 2 D cells and costs 50% more than the Kencove. They don't give a joule rating in their specs. When I bought the Kencove, I did a lot of looking and at the time, it was the best one of it's type for the money.
With most chargers, it's operation is highly dependent on the ground and whether the animal has good ground contact. When those are equal, most chargers will do the job. The question is how long the fence needs to be. More powerful chargers will operate longer fences.

I've heard about campers training bears by smearing peanut butter on the wires or hanging some kind of conductive bait bag on the wire and pouring water on the ground by it. That attracts the bear and he gets shocked. Usually they learn. When I read about a bear that keeps going through a fence, I have to question whether he's in contact with the ground.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Gallagher S20.





We have 3-4 Gallaghers.

Couple S20's in the mix.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Here's one that popular with backpackers for bear fences, sold by UDAP.COM. It uses 2 D cells and costs 50% more than the Kencove. They don't give a joule rating in their specs. When I bought the Kencove, I did a lot of looking and at the time, it was the best one of it's type for the money.
With most chargers, it's operation is highly dependent on the ground and whether the animal has good ground contact. When those are equal, most chargers will do the job. The question is how long the fence needs to be. More powerful chargers will operate longer fences.

I've heard about campers training bears by smearing peanut butter on the wires or hanging some kind of conductive bait bag on the wire and pouring water on the ground by it. That attracts the bear and he gets shocked. Usually they learn. When I read about a bear that keeps going through a fence, I have to question whether he's in contact with the ground.

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One of the links I can across was not impressed with UDAP. Don’t recall the model.

I know of 2 or 3 locals that used foil with jam to teach the bears. Gives a shock on sensitive tissues and leaves an impression. I also know of one where they watched the sow push the wire to the ground with her feet, shorting it out.


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Originally Posted by SamOlson
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Gallagher S20.

We have 3-4 Gallaghers.

Couple S20's in the mix.

Appreciate the brand mention fellas.


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I haven’t been to a Tractor Supply in 30 years.

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Originally Posted by ironbender
No tractor supply here.

They have a website.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
When I read about a bear that keeps going through a fence, I have to question whether he's in contact with the ground.

I've had calves that learned to do that. I suspect a bear is as smart as a calf.


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Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
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No tractor supply here.

They have a website.


Rural King’s is better, just like everything else about Rural King.

Rural King might be the best retailer on the planet.

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"When I read about a bear that keeps going through a fence, I have to question whether he's in contact with the ground."

Air-bear? Gives a flying f**k?

Ok, I know what you meant. smile


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Ground the other wires?


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I haven’t been to a Tractor Supply in 30 years.

Helpful. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Here's one that popular with backpackers for bear fences, sold by UDAP.COM. It uses 2 D cells and costs 50% more than the Kencove. They don't give a joule rating in their specs. When I bought the Kencove, I did a lot of looking and at the time, it was the best one of it's type for the money.
With most chargers, it's operation is highly dependent on the ground and whether the animal has good ground contact. When those are equal, most chargers will do the job. The question is how long the fence needs to be. More powerful chargers will operate longer fences.

I've heard about campers training bears by smearing peanut butter on the wires or hanging some kind of conductive bait bag on the wire and pouring water on the ground by it. That attracts the bear and he gets shocked. Usually they learn. When I read about a bear that keeps going through a fence, I have to question whether he's in contact with the ground.

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Its a POS.

You need at LEAST 1 full Joule of power to keep bears out and 2 are better.
I make my own.
2.4 joule charger, 4' aluminum ground rod, solar panel and 18 amp hour Dakota lithium battery

Then again, the bears on Kodiak are a little bigger than some


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz



Its a POS.

You need at LEAST 1 full Joule of power to keep bears out and 2 are better.
I make my own.
2.4 joule charger, 4' aluminum ground rod, solar panel and 18 amp hour Dakota lithium battery

Then again, the bears on Kodiak are a little bigger than some


This sounds like the hook-up....With enough left over power to run a blender for margaritas to drink while watching Yogi try to put the flames out on his fur.

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Originally Posted by SamOlson
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Gallagher S20.





We have 3-4 Gallaghers.

Couple S20's in the mix.


What's the weight on those Gallaghers?

I've got a Parmak 6v one and it's more than I'd like to take camping and maybe not enough for a determined bear.


Years ago, over on the coast, I had a bear get in a beehive. A borrowed 110-120 charger stopped him when he came back, then when I got the solar one I had no more problems, but don't know for sure that one would try again. He got quite a jolt, bent the hell out of the chickenwire garden fence, went through a barbwire one, and left a trail heading away through the grass. When I first discovered the broken into hive, I asked Game and Fish guy about deterring or having to shoot him. Was told electric fence works, unless the bear has had success, then they just bull through it.

The Parmak 6v works good for deer though.


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Originally Posted by Beaver10
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Its a POS.

You need at LEAST 1 full Joule of power to keep bears out and 2 are better.
I make my own.
2.4 joule charger, 4' aluminum ground rod, solar panel and 18 amp hour Dakota lithium battery

Then again, the bears on Kodiak are a little bigger than some


This sounds like the hook-up....With enough left over power to run a blender for margaritas to drink while watching Yogi try to put the flames out on his fur.

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Kinda the plan


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[img]http://https://cyclopsfence.com/collections/battery-powered-energizers/products/cyclops-stallion-2-5-joule-25-acre-12v-battery-powered-energizer[/img]

This one


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