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Re: The .270 Sharpsman #16363489 08/21/21
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,621 Vermont PintsofCraft Campfire Regular
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Re: The .270 Sharpsman #16363499 08/21/21
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 1,313 L Llama_Bob Campfire Regular
Llama_Bob Campfire Regular L Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 1,313	It's like a Creedmoor, but with the wrong twist so it can only shoot light for caliber or horribly un-aerodynamic bullets. And in a long action so you can have a heavier, less capable rifle. And the wrong shoulder angle so you can get the joys of brass stretch and poor efficiency. And too much taper since clearly you're going to shoot it in a machine gun. The .270 is the poster girl for cartridge design failure. It combines the numerous mistakes of the .30-06 with the additional mistake of the wrong twist rate.

Re: The .270 Llama_Bob #16363540 08/21/21
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,490 Likes: 3 Texas R rickt300 Campfire Outfitter
rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,490 Likes: 3 Texas	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob It's like a Creedmoor, but with the wrong twist so it can only shoot light for caliber or horribly un-aerodynamic bullets. And in a long action so you can have a heavier, less capable rifle. And the wrong shoulder angle so you can get the joys of brass stretch and poor efficiency. And too much taper since clearly you're going to shoot it in a machine gun. The .270 is the poster girl for cartridge design failure. It combines the numerous mistakes of the .30-06 with the additional mistake of the wrong twist rate. Idiot. Dog I rescued in January

Re: The .270 Llama_Bob #16363546 08/21/21
Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 2,149 Likes: 2 Idaho S smallfry Campfire Regular
smallfry Campfire Regular S Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 2,149 Likes: 2 Idaho	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob The .270 is the poster girl for cartridge design failure. It combines the numerous mistakes of the .30-06 with the additional mistake of the wrong twist rate. Do tell Bob… tell us what the intent of the designer(s) were and how they failed to achieve them. Additionally, provide the mistakes that were made with the 30-06 where they had specific design parameters and specifications yet failed to achieve them. Be specific about the design inputs and how they failed to achieve them since you know. I am pretty confident that most cartridges were designed without your input or approval. Last edited by smallfry; 08/21/21.

Re: The .270 Llama_Bob #16363560 08/21/21
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,252 Oregon A aheider Campfire Regular
aheider Campfire Regular A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,252 Oregon	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob It's like a Creedmoor, but with the wrong twist so it can only shoot light for caliber or horribly un-aerodynamic bullets. And in a long action so you can have a heavier, less capable rifle. And the wrong shoulder angle so you can get the joys of brass stretch and poor efficiency. And too much taper since clearly you're going to shoot it in a machine gun. The .270 is the poster girl for cartridge design failure. It combines the numerous mistakes of the .30-06 with the additional mistake of the wrong twist rate. I feel incredibly lucky to kill so many critters with such a design failure 😂😂

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Re: The .270 Llama_Bob #16363564 08/21/21
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,693 Southern Oregon Blacktail53 Campfire Tracker
Blacktail53 Campfire Tracker Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,693 Southern Oregon	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob It's like a Creedmoor, but with the wrong twist so it can only shoot light for caliber or horribly un-aerodynamic bullets. And in a long action so you can have a heavier, less capable rifle. And the wrong shoulder angle so you can get the joys of brass stretch and poor efficiency. And too much taper since clearly you're going to shoot it in a machine gun. The .270 is the poster girl for cartridge design failure. It combines the numerous mistakes of the .30-06 with the additional mistake of the wrong twist rate. BWAAAAHAHA........... that’s hilarious! BT53 "Where do they find young men like this?" Reporter Savidge, Iraq Elk, it's what's for dinner....

Re: The .270 M1Garand #16363570 08/21/21
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 637 Likes: 2 Wyoming ttpoz Campfire Regular
ttpoz Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 637 Likes: 2 Wyoming	Originally Posted by M1Garand The 270 has always been a hunting cartridge and it has a great track record. With my Supergrade, I have the 110 TTSX averaging 3536 fps and the 130 TBT averaging 3223 fps, both book loads with Hunter and RL26. I haven't worked up any 150s yet, but no doubt they'll be north of 3K with RL26. All with fairly light recoil and great hunting accuracy. Is it better than any number of others? No, but it's a great cartridge and it's easy for the eunuchs to hate greatness Those 110 TTSX's are amazing out of a 24" 270 with Hunter behind 'em. Several elk. Several mule deer. Makes my 270 think it's a 257 Weatherby ttpoz in silvam ne ligna feras (don't carry logs into the forest)

Re: The .270 Llama_Bob #16363651 08/21/21
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas J jwall Campfire Ranger
jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob It's like a Creedmoor, but with the wrong twist so it can only shoot light for caliber or horribly un-aerodynamic bullets. And in a long action so you can have a heavier, less capable rifle. And the wrong shoulder angle so you can get the joys of brass stretch and poor efficiency. And too much taper since clearly you're going to shoot it in a machine gun. The .270 is the poster girl for cartridge design failure. It combines the numerous mistakes of the .30-06 with the additional mistake of the wrong twist rate. Lame Brain just keeps on giving. Who said, “open mouth and remove all doubt?” jwall- * 3100 guy* A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

Re: The .270 jwall #16363714 08/21/21
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: The .270 Llama_Bob #16363819 08/21/21
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 1,418 South eastern BC. C comerade Campfire Regular
comerade Campfire Regular C Joined: May 2016 Posts: 1,418 South eastern BC.	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob It's like a Creedmoor, but with the wrong twist so it can only shoot light for caliber or horribly un-aerodynamic bullets. And in a long action so you can have a heavier, less capable rifle. And the wrong shoulder angle so you can get the joys of brass stretch and poor efficiency. And too much taper since clearly you're going to shoot it in a machine gun. The .270 is the poster girl for cartridge design failure. It combines the numerous mistakes of the .30-06 with the additional mistake of the wrong twist rate. For all the reasons you say it is a failure I can flip it around to be a positive. Actually a 1/10 twist handles bullets that are heavy enough to get through heavy bone and muscle on Elk and Moose. A longer action often facilitates smoother cycling than many of the newer short / fats. Brass lasts a long time, 10 or more uses for the handloader is common. Cartridge case taper is a good thing( and a gentle shoulder) in my book, it easier to extract a sticky case. Oh yeah, and it has a properly long neck to ensure a better, more square ( less run out) bullet seating. Works well with a 22" barrel.( so does the equally good 30/06 and .280 Rem) My little old point of view, folks

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Re: The .270 aheider #16364167 08/21/21
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,303 Likes: 8 West Slope of Colorado A alpinecrick Campfire Ranger
alpinecrick Campfire Ranger A Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,303 Likes: 8 West Slope of Colorado	Originally Posted by aheider I feel incredibly lucky to kill so many critters with such a design failure 😂😂 lol.....good one..... Casey Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.

Re: The .270 Sharpsman #16364180 08/21/21
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Llama_Bob Campfire Regular L Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 1,313	Good to see .270 fangirls are as sensitive as ever

Re: The .270 Llama_Bob #16364338 08/21/21
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,644 Ouachita Mtns, AR gunnut308 Campfire Outfitter
gunnut308 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,644 Ouachita Mtns, AR	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob It's like a Creedmoor, but with the wrong twist so it can only shoot light for caliber or horribly un-aerodynamic bullets. And in a long action so you can have a heavier, less capable rifle. And the wrong shoulder angle so you can get the joys of brass stretch and poor efficiency. And too much taper since clearly you're going to shoot it in a machine gun. The .270 is the poster girl for cartridge design failure. It combines the numerous mistakes of the .30-06 with the additional mistake of the wrong twist rate.

Re: The .270 gunnut308 #16364348 08/21/21
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,252 Oregon A aheider Campfire Regular
aheider Campfire Regular A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,252 Oregon	Originally Posted by gunnut308 Originally Posted by Llama_Bob It's like a Creedmoor, but with the wrong twist so it can only shoot light for caliber or horribly un-aerodynamic bullets. And in a long action so you can have a heavier, less capable rifle. And the wrong shoulder angle so you can get the joys of brass stretch and poor efficiency. And too much taper since clearly you're going to shoot it in a machine gun. The .270 is the poster girl for cartridge design failure. It combines the numerous mistakes of the .30-06 with the additional mistake of the wrong twist rate. 😂

Re: The .270 elkhunternm #16364605 08/22/21
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas J jwall Campfire Ranger
jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas	[quote=elkhunternm] I gotcha Elks but sometimes STUPIDITY just has to be called out. I promise to try to do better, not guaranteed but try. Jerry jwall- * 3100 guy* A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

Re: The .270 Llama_Bob #16364615 08/22/21
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,369 Likes: 3 Charlotte, NC B blairvt Campfire Tracker
blairvt Campfire Tracker B Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,369 Likes: 3 Charlotte, NC	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob It's like a Creedmoor, but with the wrong twist so it can only shoot light for caliber or horribly un-aerodynamic bullets. And in a long action so you can have a heavier, less capable rifle. And the wrong shoulder angle so you can get the joys of brass stretch and poor efficiency. And too much taper since clearly you're going to shoot it in a machine gun. The .270 is the poster girl for cartridge design failure. It combines the numerous mistakes of the .30-06 with the additional mistake of the wrong twist rate. Damn, I thought I had you blocked. take care of that now

Re: The .270 Llama_Bob #16364625 08/22/21
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Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383	Originally Posted by Llama_Bob Good to see .270 fangirls are as sensitive as ever DO you somehow think this is 3rd grade ? That is your maturity level.

Re: The .270 jwall #16364653 08/22/21
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	Originally Posted by jwall [quote=elkhunternm] I gotcha Elks but sometimes STUPIDITY just has to be called out. I promise to try to do better, not guaranteed but try. Jerry It's throwing out stupid stuff to get a reaction, nothing more, nothing less. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: The .270 jwall #16364670 08/22/21
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas J jwall Campfire Ranger
jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas	Originally Posted by jwall I gotcha Elks............................. Jerry jwall- * 3100 guy* A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

Re: The .270 Sharpsman #16364682 08/22/21
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	Ok, I'll keep an eye on you though. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

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