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the Germans never would have conquered Russia......if we hadnt gotten involved more than likely the nazis and commies would have fought each other to a standstill , substantially weakening both régimes


going back further , if we hadnt gotten into WW1 , nazis or communists might never had existed at all

260Remguy: Why do you think Japan just up and mounted an attack on the huge USA? Reckon the Roosevelt administration goaded them with a blockade and embargo? By the way, Roosevelt fired Admiral James Otto Richardson for pointing out how reckless an idea it was to put our navy fleet out at Pearl Harbor. I can't see any upside that the USA gained by failing to follow George Washington's advice for us to stay out of the affairs of foreign countries. If we hadn't jumped on poor old Spain on a pretext then we wouldn't have owned the Philippines and therefore wouldn't have had as much reason to worry about Jap and Chinese issues. We have always had enough fish to fry on our side of both oceans without looking for more.

As to your question about a Nazi victory, how could that have been worse than a Soviet dominated Europe?

Germany getting the bomb before we did could have been interesting.

Maybe FDR suckered the Japanese into attacking us. You can only specufate what might have happened by playing the "what if" game.

As to your question of whether a Nazi dominated Europe would have been worse than a Soviet dominated Europe, it surely would have been worse for the Jews who were still alive in April 1945. The Nazis clutterted their rail network and tied up many thousands of soldier and potential soldier by hunting down Jews and then shipping the to the death camp in order to achieve their final solution. Hitler and Himmler were obcessed with the final solution to the detriment of the German military from a logistical and manpowr perspective. Plus there is also the issue of nuclear weapons and ballistic delivery systems. Werner Von Braun and the other German rocket scientists with instrumental in putting the U.S. ahead of the Soviets in the space race. It seems to me that the U.S. would have been in a position of great danger if the Nazis had won WW2. Maybe no a lot more danager than we have been from the Soviets and Russia, but nobody knows what Hitler would have done if he had had nuclear weapons and long range delivery systems.

There are an endless supply of alternate scenarios and what ifs. I am an isolationist and a hard money believer but that ship sailed a long time ago. It seems to me that we would have been eons ahead had we stopped our acquisitions with Alaska and let Europe and Asia go their way except for trading with them. Our intervention in World War 1 most certainly led to what is now known as WW-2. Our foreign military adventures and social programs financed by the same bankers that bankrolled both sides has put us in bankruptcy and in a position to be ruled by tyranny.