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They are awesome. Ever catch one in an elk or all pass throughs?

If you're happy, I'm happy

Riflehunter said,

" No need to not use good bullets in the .270. The .277 140 grain Accubond, 140 Sierra Tipped GameKing for example have good b.c.'s without being excessively long, good sectional density, good accuracy, ideal cross-sectional area, good performance on game.

None are so deaf than those who will not hear !

I'll take a Good bullet + velocity over a Good bullet with - velocity. My preference......49 yrs hunting experience.

Jerry

I'm thinking there's a bunch of other animals you could add to that list..

dave

That's why you love your 7Mag. Seems you finally "heard"

A Man can have more than 1 love.

Jerry

I suppose if you want more velocity with the good .270 bullets there's nothing wrong with the .270 Weatherby.

RH

I was referring to the new hot trend of
long heavy SLOWER speed vs
the 270s 130 @ 3100.

It’s been a couple three years in a discussion
“They said the 6.5 C would pass the 270
+/- 600 yds. “

I’ll take a 600 yd advantage EVERY time.

Jerry

edit add: the 7 RM is ‘like’ a 270 on steroids.

I like a 30-06 for deer and hogs.

Last year winter I acquired my first 270win so I've not gotten any game down yet. I got a smoking deal on Federal premium ammo and snatch a good amount up as well as some Federal blue box 130gr soft point.

Those others were the Federal Trophy Copper 130gr ammo. Does anyone have any time with these? I've never used the Trophy Copper before. After that I have a bunch of Nosler partition, Speer Hot Core and Hornady SST bullets to fill those empty cases.

I suppose a lot of the more experienced hunters are more likely to reload and re-barrel their .270's and .257's rather than buy new rifles. The gun and ammunition companies have to have some gimmick to sell their new rifles and loaded ammunition otherwise they'll go out of business. It's inevitable that they convince new shooters that they'll be killing game at 600 or 700 yards when 150 yds is more likely. If I was shooting game as opposed to paper at those distances, I'd still want a .270 on a bigger case and use 165-170 grain projectiles in a heavy rifle with a 27" barrel.

The 270 is a great cartridge and has been around for quite some time. For heavy game a 280 for me with 140TSX works for me. My 6 Creedmoors with a 90 or 100 gr bullet kills game just as dead. Just a thought from all posters on this thread...... what is the average distance of most shots taken? My guess is 250 yards or less which is basically point and shoot with a 200/220 yard zero that nearly every centerfire will accomplish with ease. There are some very good points of view on this thread, but...... this is dead nuts here:


150 grain bullet out of 308 Win, 24” barrel @ 2,950 fps.
140 grain bullet out of 7-08 Rem, 24” barrel @ 2,950 fps.
130 grain bullet out of 270 Win, 24” barrel @ 3,150 fps.
130 grain bullet out of 6.5 CM, 24” barrel @ 2,850 fps.
150 grain bullet out of 30-06, 24” barrel @ 3,100 fps.

New product development ie. "new calibers" is merely a sales gimmick for the guns and ammo manufacturers to collect our cash!
Look how many deer have been taken with the 30-30 and other lever guns?

Then the gun manufacturers come up with "new rifles" such as Senderos, Bean Field Rifles, Long Range this, Long Range that and we donate our hard earned money chasing the new flavor of the day.

6.5 Creedmoor was a marketing genius form Hornady. Is it any better than the other calibers mentioned here? Nope. But they sure as hell sold the shiitt out of it and money exchanged hands from the Hunter/ Shooters to the manufacturers just as they planeed it!


Several other calibers could be added to this list. Potato vs Potatoe. Pick your caliber and master it.

Just for shiitts and giggles I googled this:

What distance are most deer shot?
Mostly, whitetails are killed at 100 yards or less and mule deer at 200 and under, but every once in a while, you will want to take a shot at truly long range–300 and 400 yards.Aug 1, 2004



Interesting read.....
https://backfire.tv/flat-shooting-cartridges/

Pass throughs so far but I haven't put them through two shoulders.

puah, we are friends and I'm not shooting at you. grin

I do understand averages but I'm not concerned about the average for all hunters/shooters. I prep for myself.
Most of my deer have been killed less than 200 yds and some less than 100. I have also kilt plenty 200-300 yds and
a few @ 400 yds.

I was an UNabused Boy Scout so 'be prepared' is ingrained in me. Early in my deer hunting I was disappointed to
be reminded that I was NOT prepared for longer shots. Lesson LEARNED.
That theme is appropriate for many things beside hunting. DON'T go to deer lease W/O liquid, snacks, or first aid.

I 'could' have killed nearly all my deer with a 270/280/30-06 class rifle (include 25-06). A few times I've been glad to have a 7 RM or 300 WM in my hands.

I KNOW a 7 RM isn't needed for deer hunting in the South, it's comforting in really open desert , prairie ,bean field
or large cutover landscape.

I'd rather have 'too much' and not need it THAN to have too little and need more. That applies to more than hunting.
Make of that what you will. LOL

Bottom line for ME is:

Hunt/shoot what pleases YOU and that's what I do. It doesn't matter to me and I don't lose a minutes sleep over anyone
hunting a handgun or short range rifle. BTW I have killed deer with a Rooger (lol) SBHK 44 mag.

I don't go for, "almost as good as". I get the real thing.

Jerry

All good JW....

Most people buy into the sales pitch from gun manufacturers for all the new calibers which are being touted as the "latest and greatest" for their own sales dollars. IE... 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5PRC .224 Valkyrie, and all the new Nosler calibers etc....
More times than not, hunters / shooters are very gullible and chase the propaganda instead of working on their overall marksmanship.

By this list, if people wanted a truly "long range point and shoot" (depending on what the definition of long range is) they should opt for one of the top 3 and call it a day.

6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum -32.00 -200.80
.26 Nosler -34.00 -210.70
.28 Nosler -37.00 -225.10

By the way..... the 280 best the 270..

.280 Remington -45.00 -287.40

.270 Winchester -46.00 -314.00


https://backfire.tv/flat-shooting-cartridges/


The good thing about this sport is we have plenty of calibers to choose form and debate about which is best on gun forums!
Buy what suits you, get the most accurate / highest BC hunting bullet that your rifle likes, gather your dope, practice, and put your skills to a successful hunt.

Exactly

I think we all go thru phases as were age and mature. Some start big and slow others start smaller and fast. I have gone both ways and it’s all good. My latest unnecessary purchase was a 270 Weatherby and it’s pushes 150 Berger’s at 3295 average. 200 yard groups are inch and a quarter or less.
My purchase just before that was a Ruger no 1 in 405 winchester. It’s all good.
Have fun guys. Edk

puah

"All good JW....

Most people buy into the sales pitch from gun manufacturers for all the new calibers which are being touted as the "latest and greatest" for their own sales dollars. IE... 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5PRC .224 Valkyrie, and all the new Nosler calibers etc....
More times than not, hunters / shooters are very gullible and chase the propaganda instead of working on their overall marksmanship.

By this list, if people wanted a truly "long range point and shoot" (depending on what the definition of long range is) they should opt for one of the top 3 and call it a day.

6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum -32.00 -200.80
.26 Nosler -34.00 -210.70
.28 Nosler -37.00 -225.10

By the way..... the 280 best the 270.."


All Good here too.

My personal limit is 400 yd. I'm confident at that range.
At that range the 280 / 270 is a wash.

I have picked the 7 RM as MY 1 for ALL N. A. big game.
The 7 RM picks up where the 270 / 280 leaves off (for me)

Jerry

I think with the improvements with the .270 bullets in terms of b.c, you can't really say that the .280 is better than the .270. I'd rather just a few good bullets with good b.c's rather than lots on the basis that there's more chance of the ones you want being stocked than some other one that might have a different point of impact and powder charge and seating depth. I'd rather have the better sectional density of a 140 grain bullet with a good b.c. out of a .270 than a 140 grain bullet out of a .280. If you blow out the .280 case and put a 30 degree shoulder on it and use 150 grain projectiles at say additional 50 fps over the .280...that might be marginally better than the .270 in some respects, marginally more recoil and muzzle blast, but not enough to detract from being relatively easy to shoot well at distance (300 -350 yds). Feeding would still be good and you don't lose magazine capacity.