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I think with the improvements with the .270 bullets in terms of b.c, you can't really say that the .280 is better than the .270. I'd rather just a few good bullets with good b.c's rather than lots on the basis that there's more chance of the ones you want being stocked than some other one that might have a different point of impact and powder charge and seating depth. I'd rather have the better sectional density of a 140 grain bullet with a good b.c. out of a .270 than a 140 grain bullet out of a .280. If you blow out the .280 case and put a 30 degree shoulder on it and use 150 grain projectiles at say additional 50 fps over the .280...that might be marginally better than the .270 in some respects, marginally more recoil and muzzle blast, but not enough to detract from being relatively easy to shoot well at distance (300 -350 yds). Feeding would still be good and you don't lose magazine capacity. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to talk about .270 BC advancements and then compare with a 140 from the .280.
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Agreed Jordan
Even tho 140 gr is 140 gr the bore dia changes the
width and length.
From the SAME maker...
A 140 gr .277. Has a higher BC than
A 140 gr .284
A 150 gr .284 has a very similar BC to
A 140 gr .277
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The point I'm making is that to get an improvement over the 140 grain .277 bullet, in a .280 you need to go to the 150 grain .280 bullet but drive it a bit faster than what the .280 does.
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Have we debated the .270 enough?
New thread , new caliber for discussion?
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Have we debated the .270 enough?
New thread , new caliber for discussion? Nope, I saw a twitch. Keep hammerin…. 
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Let's Go Brandon! FJB
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Semper Fi
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Have we debated the .270 enough?
New thread , new caliber for discussion? How about the .300 Springfield?
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Have we debated the .270 enough?
New thread , new caliber for discussion? How about the .300 Springfield? The .300 Whelen is better.  Jerry
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Have we debated the .270 enough?
New thread , new caliber for discussion? How about the .300 Springfield? Junk…. It won’t make it.
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Who want to start the conversation off?
.300 Whelen vs .300 Springfield
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Funny y’all don’t B..... about 6.5 Queermore!
Jerry. I said that.
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Have we debated the .270 enough?
New thread , new caliber for discussion? How about the .300 Springfield? The .300 Whelen is better. Jerry Agreed. I like both the 270 and 280. For the average fella shooting bucks and bulls out to 500’ish I don’t see enough difference to matter myself. I think Lapua said get good with your chosen one. I think that’s pretty good advice. I’ve got a 7.5 twist Krieger in my basement and some 27 Nosler dies. Pretty soon that one will get made up. I have no illusions that a 28 Nosler or anything 7mm won’t whip it but I’m pretty sure with anything decent around a .650 BC at around 3k or so I’ll be okay. I’m doing it just for the helluva it and know all of the things against it but I’m still a 270 guy and since I have my beloved Mashburn I’m pretty well covered but it’s still fun figuring something else out. Barrels are cheaper than any number of other bad habits I could have.
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Who want to start the conversation off?
.300 Whelen vs .300 Springfield 300 Whelen, if ya just gotta do a 308…. 
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Funny y’all don’t B..... about 6.5 Queermore!
Jerry. I said that. The only thing I can say good about the 6.5 Queermore is it made the manufacturers very wealthy. I am a huge fan of the 6 Creedmoor though.
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Funny y’all don’t B..... about 6.5 Queermore!
Jerry. I said that. The only thing I can say good about the 6.5 Queermore is it made the manufacturers very wealthy. I am a huge fan of the 6 Creedmoor though. Same.. I got one of them cheap Howas, put it in a McM and man, it’s quite easy to please.
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Now, how about this........
Just for conversation purposes ONLY.....
I assume most of us have at least 2 rifles (wink, wink) If you could only have one rifle, what caliber would it be and what action?
Bolt, semi, lever, single shot, etc.
Lets stick to centerfire only. .22LR is a given.
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If push came to shove I’d do away with everything but my 7 Mashburn Super. It’s a P64 action.
But God why do you gotta stress a fella out with tough stuff.
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If push came to shove I’d do away with everything but my 7 Mashburn Super. It’s a P64 action.
But God why do you gotta stress a fella out with tough stuff. Because I just had spinal fusion on my neck and will have lots of time to discuss guns. Which I like so well.... Why the 7 Mashburn Super? Educate me on this please.
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