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All the bs numbers aside, the USA is supposedly the hotbed for covid which I think is purely monetarily and politically driven. So why don't we have our own version?

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Originally Posted by antlers
“Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla on Tuesday said the company believes a COVID-19 vaccine-resistant variant will likely one day emerge,...”

But he also “noted a company process to develop a variant-specific vaccine within 95 days from identifying the variant of concern.”


They take the NWO/ GREAT RESET problem, the operational.reaction occurs as designed, now the "final solution" to quote Billy Gates.
He also said that it is the biggest financial return on his investment. He also said that he wants the world to get down as close as possible to zero.

Everyone is in OpLockstep on this except for God, His angels, people and those labeled "crazy conspiracy theorists."

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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Unsprayed weeds don't become immune to Glyphosate.



Ugh, well?


It's actually a problem. That mirrors the covid in a way.


Glyphosate used at th e wrong times or ratios will kill many of
the weeds most susceptible to it. Not just between varieties,
But within.

Spray it weak, the individuals naturally a little more tolerant
of it won't die. If they go to seed......those seeds will likely
create more plants that are tolerant. And maybe more tolerant.

Screw up enough, and your field is covered in plants that SHOULD die
From Roundup, but don't.

Kinda like corn and soybeans that should die from Roundup,
But don't. Only different.


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Originally Posted by Longbob
All the bs numbers aside, the USA is supposedly the hotbed for covid which I think is purely monetarily and politically driven. So why don't we have our own version?

That's a pretty good question and I'd love to hear the real answer. So far, it seems like we, in North America, are dependent on others to create the new variants so that we can import them; much like all of our manufacturing! GD

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When .guv shuts off the $$$ spigot the vax suppliers will stop this messaging. Book it.


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Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs
When .guv shuts off the $$$ spigot the vax suppliers will stop this messaging. Book it.


I think that would normally work if these were typical grants that run out.
Gates and his vaccine companies pay the politicians to do their bidding, like stealing money from the babies' piggy banks.
The money keeps flowing endlessly to all involved except for the world population that are treated like giant layer houses full of hens.

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This was approved by temporary head of the FDA a cretin named Janet Woodcock.

She has history of working for the FDA during the opioid epidemic that killed hundreds of thousands of American citizens.

She's nothing more than a shill for Big Pharma.


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In NC we look at the Covid dashboard for updates on hospitalization and beds available

https://covid19.ncdhhs.gov/dashboard/hospitalizations

January was the worst Month with over 4000 beds filled.... we are not all the way back to that level yet but this Delta surge appears to be a real thing. Your state probably has a similar dashboard if you'd like to look. It's currently a bad time to need a high level of inpatient care in NC.


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
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Unsprayed weeds don't become immune to Glyphosate.

Ugh, well?


It's actually a problem. That mirrors the covid in a way.
Point being that the only way a virus could adapt to be immune to a vaccine is by being exposed to the vaccine. The vax-resistant variants aren't coming from the unvaxxed.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Unsprayed weeds don't become immune to Glyphosate.

Ugh, well?


It's actually a problem. That mirrors the covid in a way.
Point being that the only way a virus could adapt to be immune to a vaccine is by being exposed to the vaccine. The vax-resistant variants aren't coming from the unvaxxed.



That's not true. The mutations are random. A resistant host doesn't create mutations, a resistant host might select for them , but not create, If the two strains had the same profile for viral load/communicability etc it might require a vaccinated population to select for the mutated strains, but in the case of the Delta variant its just more transmissible, it would have spread even without a vaccinated population.

As for Delta it was first identified in India at a time when the vaccination % was quite low. its possible that it originated in a vaccinated host but not that likely.


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Originally Posted by greydog
Originally Posted by Longbob
All the bs numbers aside, the USA is supposedly the hotbed for covid which I think is purely monetarily and politically driven. So why don't we have our own version?

That's a pretty good question and I'd love to hear the real answer. So far, it seems like we, in North America, are dependent on others to create the new variants so that we can import them; much like all of our manufacturing! GD



Truth! Our manufacturing is truly dead if we cannot manufacture our own version at this point. The last sentence was tongue in cheek.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Unsprayed weeds don't become immune to Glyphosate.

Ugh, well?


It's actually a problem. That mirrors the covid in a way.
Point being that the only way a virus could adapt to be immune to a vaccine is by being exposed to the vaccine. The vax-resistant variants aren't coming from the unvaxxed.

Of course. Only an idiot doesn't see that. Amazing that so many of the "woke" believe it.

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Originally Posted by noKnees

That's not true. The mutations are random. A resistant host doesn't create mutations, a resistant host might select for them , but not create, If the two strains had the same profile for viral load/communicability etc it might require a vaccinated population to select for the mutated strains, but in the case of the Delta variant its just more transmissible, it would have spread even without a vaccinated population.

As for Delta it was first identified in India at a time when the vaccination % was quite low. its possible that it originated in a vaccinated host but not that likely.

The non-vaxxed don't provide an environment that favors the survival of a mutation over the survival of the conventional version of the virus. Only a vaxxed body does that.

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Originally Posted by noKnees
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Unsprayed weeds don't become immune to Glyphosate.

Ugh, well?


It's actually a problem. That mirrors the covid in a way.
Point being that the only way a virus could adapt to be immune to a vaccine is by being exposed to the vaccine. The vax-resistant variants aren't coming from the unvaxxed.



That's not true. The mutations are random. A resistant host doesn't create mutations, a resistant host might select for them , but not create, If the two strains had the same profile for viral load/communicability etc it might require a vaccinated population to select for the mutated strains, but in the case of the Delta variant its just more transmissible, it would have spread even without a vaccinated population.

As for Delta it was first identified in India at a time when the vaccination % was quite low. its possible that it originated in a vaccinated host but not that likely.


BS.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by noKnees

That's not true. The mutations are random. A resistant host doesn't create mutations, a resistant host might select for them , but not create, If the two strains had the same profile for viral load/communicability etc it might require a vaccinated population to select for the mutated strains, but in the case of the Delta variant its just more transmissible, it would have spread even without a vaccinated population.

As for Delta it was first identified in India at a time when the vaccination % was quite low. its possible that it originated in a vaccinated host but not that likely.

The non-vaxxed don't provide an environment that favors the survival of a mutation over the survival of the conventional version of the virus. Only a vaxxed body does that.


They identify the Delta Variant here every day with the PCR TEST which cant differentiate between kids with the common cold or flu.

UFR WTF people will believe when told what to think by a suit on TV.


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by noKnees
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Unsprayed weeds don't become immune to Glyphosate.

Ugh, well?


It's actually a problem. That mirrors the covid in a way.
Point being that the only way a virus could adapt to be immune to a vaccine is by being exposed to the vaccine. The vax-resistant variants aren't coming from the unvaxxed.



That's not true. The mutations are random. A resistant host doesn't create mutations, a resistant host might select for them , but not create, If the two strains had the same profile for viral load/communicability etc it might require a vaccinated population to select for the mutated strains, but in the case of the Delta variant its just more transmissible, it would have spread even without a vaccinated population.

As for Delta it was first identified in India at a time when the vaccination % was quite low. its possible that it originated in a vaccinated host but not that likely.


BS.


Which part is BS? Random mutations? Selection? First identified in India?


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by noKnees

That's not true. The mutations are random. A resistant host doesn't create mutations, a resistant host might select for them , but not create, If the two strains had the same profile for viral load/communicability etc it might require a vaccinated population to select for the mutated strains, but in the case of the Delta variant its just more transmissible, it would have spread even without a vaccinated population.

As for Delta it was first identified in India at a time when the vaccination % was quite low. its possible that it originated in a vaccinated host but not that likely.

The non-vaxxed don't provide an environment that favors the survival of a mutation over the survival of the conventional version of the virus. Only a vaxxed body does that.



Both vaccinated and natural immunity cause viruses to mutate.



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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by noKnees

That's not true. The mutations are random. A resistant host doesn't create mutations, a resistant host might select for them , but not create, If the two strains had the same profile for viral load/communicability etc it might require a vaccinated population to select for the mutated strains, but in the case of the Delta variant its just more transmissible, it would have spread even without a vaccinated population.

As for Delta it was first identified in India at a time when the vaccination % was quite low. its possible that it originated in a vaccinated host but not that likely.

The non-vaxxed don't provide an environment that favors the survival of a mutation over the survival of the conventional version of the virus. Only a vaxxed body does that.



Both vaccinated and natural immunity cause viruses to mutate.



Mutations aren't caused by immunity. They are caused by errors in replication and/or nucleic acid damage. They can be selected for by immunity, but they can also be selected for by any other factor that favors the mutant. Delta is easier to transmit that the original strain. That's enough to give it an edge. Could the vaccine accelerate that by making the selection stronger? Sure, but Delta had an advantage even without the vaccine.


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Originally Posted by jwp475
Both vaccinated and natural immunity cause viruses to mutate.
I believe this is true. And now we know the ''vaccine'' doesn't work very well and for all we know may contribute to immune and genetic disorders. This juiced up animal disease has been altered so that it can make humans sick and just like the common cold, flu, and country music it is here to stay.


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