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Congrats to the young lady! A .270 Win with proper bullets will handle game like oryx, elk, moose, kudu..... etc

LOL, nice try bob but I don't own a .270. I do own rifles chambered in both 280 AI and 7WSM though. I prefer the 280. Good brass is much easier to find and it feeds better. And anyone who thinks a short action has a practical advantage over a long action is no doubt an expert at picking pepper out of fly sh*t.

The reasons why J. O'C liked 22" barrels on his .270s were because he was primarily interested in sheep hunting (even though he hunted lots of different species all around the world) and he said that most sheep are shot at close range where the velocity loss made no difference. The second reason was that he said a longer barrel got hung up more on rocky overhangs up in the mountains. The third reason was that he considered that an all up weight of 8 lbs was ideal for a sheep rifle in .270 caliber. To get the weight down to that 8 lbs he would get the stock trimmed down, the barrel profile trimmed down and cut the length down to 22". Now he considered Barbary Sheep to be sheep (when they are actually part way between goat and sheep) and went to Africa to shoot them. I don't know what distance he shot his Barbary Sheep at, but in Western Texas the shots can be quite long like around 350 yds. When comparing the .270 and 7RM, he thought that the 7RM gave no real advantage when used in a 22" barrel over the .270..just more noise and recoil. He thought with a 7RM it was better in a 24" barrel to get an advantage over the .270 in a 22" barrel and that would necessitate a heavier rifle because of both the longer barrel and extra weight needed to tame the recoil.

What velocity would you be getting in your .280 AI with 150 and 160s if you have chronographed them?

I agree on the 7 WSM. Great chambering.

But recoil aversion has more to it than just spotting shots. It also has to do with practice and becoming familiar and proficient with the rifle, and less recoil leads to higher round count, which leads to greater proficiency. That proficiency is needed for responsible shots on game at long range.

The weight and length advantage can be practical in some applications.

Umpteen pages defending "because that's the way we've always done it". smh At least the pics were nice until they turned to schit.

I have pix of 270s & kilt critters but it’s inconvenient to post them now.

I also like the testimony of
Satisfied 270 Win USERS.


Jerry

My .280 is a NULA so it's as light as I want it to be.

I'm getting 3050 with 150 Ballistic Tips and Scenars, using R-26 and I-7828.

For 160's the most accurate powder in my 2 rifles is H4831sc so that's what I'm using, It's on the slow end of the spectrum but shot placement is more important than velocity, so that's what I'm using. I'm getting just over 2,900 with 160's in both rifles.

If you look at the Nosler data, keep in mind that they use 26" barrels.

As in essentially all western hunting applications.

Taking a half inch off the action, bolt, barrel and bottom metal/magazine is not exactly trivial.

Oh, and the WSMs feed just fine. It's interesting that the .270 fangirls are convinced other superior cartridges don't feed.

I think that would be just right. Using H4831sc with the 140's in the .270, velocity is just over 3000 fps. Getting the same velocity with the 150's in an improved .280 would be a slight step up for the larger game without adding too much recoil when you use a light rifle. The 160's would also be very good at just over 2900 fps. Would you say there would be roughly a 25 fps loss from the 40 degree shoulder of the Ackley to the 30 degree RCBS (slightly less capacity)?

the WSM's will feed ok but they are not as good at feeding as the narrower 17 1/2 to 20 degree shoulder cartridges that are longer with a smaller diameter shoulder. The roughly 4 oz advantage in weight of the short action rifles is more significant in the mountains.

We've found a fangirl - she's a moron on the topic of rifle feeding (WSMs feed fine - full stop) and she's oh so in love with a [bleep] cartridge. Let's give her a hand

Don’t be cruel to
Retards. It’s not nice.


Jerry

LOL, nice try bob. Why would you call someone who doesn't own a .270 a "fangirl?"

Because it's all you've got. Feeding issues with WSMs are well-documented. I bought a Remington model 700 WSM at Sportsman's and they have a no return policy. When I took it back and showed the manager how crappy the feeding was, he took it back and gave me a refund, no questions.

Ask Jordan what he uses for 7WSM brass.

Sometimes, it's called for.