24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,275
Likes: 37
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 56,275
Likes: 37
Gibster, which ever path you pick I wish you well. Hang in there!


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


GB1

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,625
Likes: 38
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,625
Likes: 38
Originally Posted by kaywoodie


Does metoprolol give you weird dreams? Does me.


It does to me too Bob. Makes me sweat more easily too.
Beats the alternative, I guess, though. 😬

Last edited by chlinstructor; 09/17/21.

"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"

~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 17,164
Likes: 7
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 17,164
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by Gibby
Started about ten years ago. I recently had my dose of Metoprolol increased. I hate that med, but what can you do. Still have minor episodes from time to time. Just saw a new Doc yesterday. He want's to perform an Ablation procedure. Has anyone here had that procedure done. Did it help? Any side effects?


Would add, though some people tolerate it well, and some hardly sense it, if I had it ten years, I’d go for a good ablator which will most likely be in a big center.

When mine would occur it would be like a beheaded chicken flopping around in my chest — very uncomfortable although no lightheadedness or BP problems.

Best to you as you forge ahead.

Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 16,410
Likes: 15
A
add Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 16,410
Likes: 15
Originally Posted by Gibby
Started about ten years ago. I recently had my dose of Metoprolol increased. I hate that med, but what can you do. Still have minor episodes from time to time. Just saw a new Doc yesterday. He want's to perform an Ablation procedure. Has anyone here had that procedure done. Did it help? Any side effects?


Why?


Epstein didn't kill himself.

"Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!"

Biden didn't win the election.
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,685
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,685
I've had 5 cardioversions and 3 ablations. The first 2 ablations were to fix AFIB. I had no AFIB after the 2nd procedure, but a few months later, 21% of my heartbeats were PVCs, or premature ventricular contractions. Had my 3rd ablation in April to fix that. Seems to have worked, although I still feel an irregular heartbeat occasionally.

Someone else mentioned the sedation options. Asleep is good, I don't recommend being awake if you can help it. I was awake for part of the ablation in April. Not a very pleasant experience.

IC B2

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,282
Likes: 15
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,282
Likes: 15
I had mine done at Oklahoma university by a doctor named Stavros Stavrakis, a Greek immigrant cardiologist and his mentor Dr. Warren Jackman. I heard that Dr. Jackman is one of the first to try this procedure. My was done in 2013 and I was in A-fib so bad I wasn't going to survive. They worked on me all day. As of the aftermath they keep me on a medicine called Multaq and I take something for HBP. The only problem I have any more is that my heart won't speed up enough to keep me going without taking a break climbing hills or driving fence posts and such as that. The Greek doctor liked me because I knew about the Greeks whipping the Italians and causing Hitler to delay his Russian adventure by a month. I told him the Greeks caused the Nazi defeat. He knew all about that, had learned it in high school he said.


Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
Hebrew Roots Judaizer
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,584
Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,584
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by bufaf
I've had 5 cardioversions and 3 ablations. The first 2 ablations were to fix AFIB. I had no AFIB after the 2nd procedure, but a few months later, 21% of my heartbeats were PVCs, or premature ventricular contractions. Had my 3rd ablation in April to fix that. Seems to have worked, although I still feel an irregular heartbeat occasionally.

Someone else mentioned the sedation options. Asleep is good, I don't recommend being awake if you can help it. I was awake for part of the ablation in April. Not a very pleasant experience.



A-fib ablations are often/usually under general anesthesia. PVC ablations use minimal sedation. Too much or the wrong stuff, and you don't have the PVC's. We gotta map 'em to burn 'em, and ya gotta have 'em to map 'em.

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 225
C
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
C
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 225
I had Afib a lot of years that was treated with drugs starting with metoprolol and last with rythmol. All helped for a while, then went into CHG heart failure and had to do something. I had a Cryroablation performed. Three months after, I went to Peru with family against docs orders,
did not go to Machu Picchu, but still hiked some of the high country. I felt great after so many years of low energy. It has been 6 yrs. and still no afib. Doc said I am a great case with CHG to total recovery. I am still taking a small dose of carvedilol. I guess carvedlol and digoxin are wonder drugs for CHG. I should be free from drugs after the first of the year.
As a side note the first Cardio I went to said O your a pup 48yo he was like 55, he then told me he was a plumber I need a Electrician that is when I hired an Electrician, one of the videos is his.
charlee

https://youtu.be/QBREs0N_VlY


https://hooktube.com/watch?v=QBREs0N_VlY


https://hooktube.com/watch?v=zcBXnctFVEw

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 225
C
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
C
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 225
sorry missed a video
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=R2NnvwkmwA0
charlee

Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 11,927
P
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
P
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 11,927
My best bud had afib and they did that to his heart.

They got 2 nerves that were causing the trouble but could not get the third.

He has a pacemaker and they put that mesh net thing in his heart to catch clots.

He is now off all meds and has a lot more energy.

I have SVT attacks and the doc said that he could take out the third nerve that is causing them.

Still thinking about it.

IC B3

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 44,900
Likes: 40
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 44,900
Likes: 40
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
A dozen years ago you hardly ever heard of a cardiac ablation. Now it is all the rage. Seems to work based on several family members with AFib. However, as goalie pointed out above, their doc told them to expect the AFib to eventually come back.





My first one didn't hold. Second one has so far for over 3 years.


Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want.

Rehabilitation is way overrated.

Orwell wasn't wrong.

GOA member
disappointed NRA member

24HCF SEARCH
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,685
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,685
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by bufaf
I've had 5 cardioversions and 3 ablations. The first 2 ablations were to fix AFIB. I had no AFIB after the 2nd procedure, but a few months later, 21% of my heartbeats were PVCs, or premature ventricular contractions. Had my 3rd ablation in April to fix that. Seems to have worked, although I still feel an irregular heartbeat occasionally.

Someone else mentioned the sedation options. Asleep is good, I don't recommend being awake if you can help it. I was awake for part of the ablation in April. Not a very pleasant experience.



A-fib ablations are often/usually under general anesthesia. PVC ablations use minimal sedation. Too much or the wrong stuff, and you don't have the PVC's. We gotta map 'em to burn 'em, and ya gotta have 'em to map 'em.


That's the way the doc explained it. I remember being awake and telling them it hurt. I heard the anesthesiologist asking the doc, fentanyl? He said yes and that's the last thing I remember.

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11,278
Likes: 2
G
Gibby Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
G
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11,278
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Gibster, which ever path you pick I wish you well. Hang in there!


Thank you very much. That helps a lot.

I'm too much of a stubborn SOB to let it beat me down. Just ask my wife. She already told the Doc at my visit.




Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11,278
Likes: 2
G
Gibby Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
G
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11,278
Likes: 2
My Doc told me that most of the meds will do harm in the long run. Metoprolol was the least damaging but makes some people feel lousy. I'm one of those people.

I do some tough physical labor around the place sometimes. I want my heart to keep up with the demand.

This new round of Covid is messing with the scheduling at all three of the hospitals my Doc and his team work at.

One more thing just came up. A good friend went into a hospital three weeks ago for a heart problem. He caught Covid there. He died yesterday. Geez. Haven't got the full story yet.


I really appreciate all the contributors here with your personal experiences. Please keep them coming.


Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 17,763
Likes: 4
S
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
S
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 17,763
Likes: 4
When I went into the hospital, I had to have a covid test, was fine, got home and figured I caught it in the he hospital, for the Shock,or when I went to the hospital for the test, wife got it from me
But it wasn't real bad for us. Been a crappy summer.


Deer Camp! about as good as it gets!
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,644
Likes: 3
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,644
Likes: 3
Had an AV node ablation which left me pace maker dependent, then had a Watchman device installed which got rid of the heavy duty blood thinners. Still on Toprol for heart rate and aspirin, but, other than that, only had one excursion a couple years ago which set off my ICD. Doing well otherwise.

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,584
Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,584
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Chisos
Had an AV node ablation which left me pace maker dependent, then had a Watchman device installed which got rid of the heavy duty blood thinners. Still on Toprol for heart rate and aspirin, but, other than that, only had one excursion a couple years ago which set off my ICD. Doing well otherwise.


I used to be the guy who made you not care that we put that ultrasound probe down your throat.

😁

Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 3,481
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 3,481
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Chisos
Had an AV node ablation which left me pace maker dependent, then had a Watchman device installed which got rid of the heavy duty blood thinners. Still on Toprol for heart rate and aspirin, but, other than that, only had one excursion a couple years ago which set off my ICD. Doing well otherwise.


I used to be the guy who made you not care that we put that ultrasound probe down your throat.

😁


If won't for your profession lots of folks would be dead. Just think how many would never get a colonoscopy alone. I woke up once after a procedure, the nurse asked me how I was doing, I said wonderful can I get a 6 pack of that chit to go?

Had 2 flexible sigmoidoscopy done a long time ago. That hurt like hell, can't imagine a full scope without some happy juice.

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11,278
Likes: 2
G
Gibby Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
G
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11,278
Likes: 2
fentanyl Huh?

Last time I had that was in preop before my rotator cuff surgery. My nurse was a fox. My wife looked at me and said "you want me to leave for awhile"

Would ya"


Gun Shows are almost as comical as boat ramps in the Spring.
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 17,164
Likes: 7
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 17,164
Likes: 7

Aside from the publicity surrounding “street fentanyl”, the medical grade fentanyl is a great drug. It and its derivatives sufentanyl (not as much) and alfentanyl, are main stays and so improved general anesthesia techniques over the past decades.

Don’t let the deadly street version frighten you about OR suite use.

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24



535 members (257Bob, 222Sako, 1badf350, 1234, 257man, 1Longbow, 70 invisible), 14,011 guests, and 1,050 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,195,160
Posts18,542,828
Members74,058
Most Online21,066
May 26th, 2024


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.166s Queries: 54 (0.026s) Memory: 0.9102 MB (Peak: 1.0118 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-28 19:05:30 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS