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This is in no way meant as a knock on your bull, but a lot of guides are the worst at over exaggerating a bulls score.

Would you rather a client/reference say they killed a 280” or a 320”? Inches sale hunts.

Originally Posted by crshelton
My guide on that outing killed his first Colorado elk at 12 years age and also began guiding hunters then. He grew up in the mountains in the Colorado Springs area and killed his 60 th bull with a friend of mine on the ranch where I shot mine. He has also measured many bulls for others. Interestingly, the day after we had taken my bull in to a game processor in Colorado City, he remarked that he had skipped a tine and needed to measure mine again. I asked him why? I had a great time that week and saw wild elk larger than mine, and then on the last day, I shot it running away at 110 yards with a Texas heart shot! I always wanted a classic 6x6 and the points be damned! More points would not improve my memory of that great week in the Colorado mountains.

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Idaho isn't quite so picky about antler size. A legal bull is one with at least 1 antler over 6 INCHES. With deer it's 3". They just want you to be sure it's a male.


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I’m sure there are guides/outfitters that focus on that. I really haven’t run into that and I’ve never been that way myself. I don't even remember who thought this one would be in the low 300’s and it meant nothing to me then and now.

I’ve not measured anything with horn’s or antlers that I’ve taken. Now, weigh the meat? Yes.

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Well, I worked as an elk guide for quite a while. Still do as a fill in.
For those who know how many bull elk were in on....I have no idea. I don't remember the easier hunts but remember the tough ones pretty well.
I really recall the good hunts with a good dude hunter when we liked one another. 10 days in a spike camp will make this clear to you.
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Here is my best bull.

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He was taken after 18 days of hunting in 2015, but over 20 years of pursuing elk with a traditional bows and rifles over 5 different states.

Y'all can guess the score if you want, But he was measured by an ex P&Y scorer. It is not an official score, as I would never enter anything in a "book"

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Heres my best ....we actually DID measure him simply because so many people asked...307, and a 5 point at that!

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5x6? Beautiful symmetry regardless

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THAT is a trophy

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Guys that base their elk hunting on inches of horn don’t know (and probably can never know) anything about what I consider to be real elk hunting…


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Originally Posted by Brad
Guys that base their elk hunting on inches of horn don’t know (and probably can never know) anything about what I consider to be real elk hunting…


I agree 100%, I have told many people that any elk is a good elk. Any elk with a bow is a trophy, and done with traditional archery equipment makes it even more special.

I have logged more miles and vertical feet on my boots hunting elk, than any other species.


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I would shoot any bull shown on this thread and go home a happy man.


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All my bulls get measured.....adds to the description of what they are. 6x5, 32" wide, 285" or 7x7, 51" wide, 343". Helps paint a picture. Putting one "in the book", does nothing for me.

I've killed 3 bulls over 300, in 35 years.....biggest being the 343"/7x7 mentioned above. All public land hunts.

When I draw a trophy unit, I trophy hunt (and no, I don't shoot on the 1st day, what I would kill on the last day). I have my minimum set, and am prepared to eat the tag. All though, something close to the minimum, on the last day, will probably be in trouble! I've turned down many more 6x6 bulls, than I've killed, in my life.

OTC tags, first legal bull gets shot.

Cow tag, looking for a medium sized/low stressed cow....like I killed last Sunday.

I typically meat hunt in my home state, and save the trophy hunts for hard to draw/high quality, out of state hunts.

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PS: Remember 300" is 3/4 of the way to 400"!!! grin

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[ I don't shoot on the 1st day, what I would kill on the last day]

That saying is for the guys who define hunt success by punching a tag.


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Originally Posted by longarm
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THAT is a trophy


Thank you, culmination of a lot of years chasing elk.


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Originally Posted by Andy3
All my bulls get measured.....adds to the description of what they are. 6x5, 32" wide, 285" or 7x7, 51" wide, 343". Helps paint a picture. Putting one "in the book", does nothing for me.

I've killed 3 bulls over 300, in 35 years.....biggest being the 343"/7x7 mentioned above. All public land hunts.

When I draw a trophy unit, I trophy hunt (and no, I don't shoot on the 1st day, what I would kill on the last day). I have my minimum set, and am prepared to eat the tag. All though, something close to the minimum, on the last day, will probably be in trouble! I've turned down many more 6x6 bulls, than I've killed, in my life.

OTC tags, first legal bull gets shot.

Cow tag, looking for a medium sized/low stressed cow....like I killed last Sunday.

I typically meat hunt in my home state, and save the trophy hunts for hard to draw/high quality, out of state hunts.

Andy3

PS: Remember 300" is 3/4 of the way to 400"!!! grin


This^^^

Good post!

I would add, pretty much any elk is a trophy, especially a public land elk.

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Originally Posted by colorado bob
Only elk hunters will know a 300, 320 or 340 bull, but everyone can count to 6.


I love it!……👍


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Best bow kill. [Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Best gun kill
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Ugliest bull (gun)
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Awesome, congratulations.


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My buddy killed this one a few years ago on a high pressure public land unit. It ain't a 290.

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Yeah, we can call that one a trophy!!!

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