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Gunner you give Jeff some good advice. Every time I hear that old saw rasping about how bad the 120 is I just shake my head and know that the critic is a dick and repeats stupid chit. Mb


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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Gunner you give Jeff some good advice. Every time I hear that old saw rasping about how bad the 120 is I just shake my head and know that the critic is a dick and repeats stupid chit. Mb


LOl, Thanks MB, i've heard that parrot lip speak you're talking about. wink


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Maybe some of both. The 40/70 feels lighter and I would like to hunt with it. The sharps is a little heavy and until my shoulder gets better I’m not sure I can handle it unless road hunting. I am not any good at road hunting. Although not opposed to killing a deer or elk near a road. I don’t care for packing all that much. I try to bone out if to far from a road. I also hate the thought of sliding either rifle into a saddle scabbard. I’ve been on a wild horse a time or two and have rifles more suited to a horse rolling over with my rifle tied to him

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Well,

I might be that old saw, you fellas refer to. As some that shoots competitively out to a mile, I say the 120 aka the 3.25 is too much of a good thing. Grease cookies or wads take up a lot of case capacity, which makes it more durable usage wise anyway.

I shoot a 45-110 aka 2-7/8ths a good bit. With PP bullet. It is the biggest case the Sharps factory offered, were as the 3.25 wasn’t a standard chambering.which is my beef with it. Believe me in 92 when I ordered mine I wanted one Wolfgang set me down and gave it to me straight. There is documentation that says a single 3.25 was made for a gentleman at UMC.

How many of you 3.25 guys shoot, 700-850 rounds a year in your 120’s in the various gong and paper matches. How many of you win, or place well? Pedersoli used to offer a put your money where your mouth is. Called the 5200 something Dan Theodor and Dick Trink came up with. With several different categories. It was all about group size.

It’s a shame that this went away, as it would give folks the chance to put up or shut up.

I host a match at our ranch. It’s a Creedmoor style on traditional steel targets with a scoreable bullseye. 800-900-1000 yards. Also I host a Mile match at the same time. Any of you 120 buys is welcome to come try your hand.

I know magnum Bob attended once, he was well treated hell I even feed him.

Bring your rifle and show us how it’s done.

Kenny Wasserburger

PS to the original poster question, I agree with Don aka Ranch, send it to Shiloh, not Shilo learn to spell it right. Their barrels are made in house and the best there is. C Sharps hasn’t used badger barrels in 16-17 years. Unless you buy a 1-18 twist Douglas or 1-16 for your rifle for them to use. Otherwise just Send it to Shiloh.

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Our numbers are small, and getting smaller every year, our old buddy Bagwell just pulled out too, long story short, i'm not critical of ANY Sharps rifle chambering, i encourage and help in any way i can, dont give a chit what the Sharps rifle factory did or did not chamber, also dont care if someone shows up here with a Sharps rifle in 22 Hornet, i'll set them up with my machine shop Bud to turn them a powder compression die, wad punch, drop tube, and try to find someone to cut a mould for them.

No match shooter here either, buckhorn barrel, and copper penny front sight hunter, Cape Buffalo, Zebra, Eland, Sable, American Buffalo and dozens of white tail deer and pigs, just left Savageton Wyo. on the 10th of October, hit a nice doe mule deer at 156 yards with my 44-77 and doe Antelope with an old pre-64 264 WM, great hunt. better eats!


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Bill had been to our ranch several times, we even spent 4 days testing new process powder.

Later called express. I knew him well called him friend.

Our ranch is east of Savageton. I worked the area and fracked a lot of gas wells there. Knew the Rossbacks, Roy used to lease the ranch next to ours. I also know the Camblins. I fracked a lot of wells around the Pumpkin Buttes. Jim Hall is also a good friend of mine over on the black and yellow.

Business rifle buckhorn and copper penny front here also 4 dead buffer to its credit.

But also a target shooter, paper n steel.

I would never cheer on someone making a bad choice, a 120 is a bad choice.

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Gunner what bullet you using in the 44-77? What bullet in the 264? Mb


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Gunner500,

45,074 posts? When do you find time too shoot. That’s over 10 separate posts a day.


Were you hunting on Geer’s?

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[quote=gunner500, just left Savageton Wyo. on the 10th of October, hit a nice doe mule deer at 156 yards with my 44-77 and doe Antelope with an old pre-64 264 WM, great hunt. better eats![/quote]

So what's up with that? so close by and you didn't call?


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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Gunner what bullet you using in the 44-77? What bullet in the 264? Mb


MB, 1.285 long 475gr paper patch, i cast these really soft at a guesstimated 40/1 alloy for deer this year, they're wrapped with the very last patches our old buddy Bagwell ever cut, i talked with Sidra the other day, she's not ready to clean the paper scraps off the table and floor yet, just like he left it. smile......i shoot 160gr PP Woodleigh Weldcores at 3000 fps over RL-33 in the 264 WM.

KW, i retired at 46 years old in '09, that's when i discovered the internet and joined a couple forums, that gave me plenty of time to shoot AND fu-k off on the internet, you see, since 1985 i only went to work maybe 1-3 times per year, have always had plenty of leisure time, no on Geer's, this hunt was put together for a bud i've known for 35 years that's trying to stay alive, leukemia is trying to take him, we got him out and had a hell of a hunt, no pics were taken, the trip was about him, i'm sure he appreciated the no pic deal in his current condition, hope like fu-k it's not his last!

Damn Ranch, i didn't know you were so close, this hunt wouldn't have mattered anyway because of the reasons stated above, it wasn't a real social deal this time, if i'm ever in the area again i will give you a call.


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You were within 38 miles of me also. But of course you didn’t know it.

KW

Bill was quite a guy, enjoyed spending time with him on our ranch, testing powder.

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KW, i'll give Ranch a call if out that way again, maybe we can find a place to sit for a visit and run a blade through a ribeye.

Bill was one of a kind, i remember him telling me about the powder testing at your place, also how well that 480gr Lyman flat nosed greaser flew to 1000 in the big winds up your way.

Speaking of 45-110's, i have three, two originals and one 15lb bull barrel rifle, i love em, it's a hell of a cartridge, i shoot paper patch in all three, a 514gr round nose copy of a factory Sharps bullet from a Mos mould, and a 520gr bullet with a 0250" meplat, it was made by Ed Tlton, Bagwell gave me both moulds.

My 120 came from me spotting a long barreled rifle in the rack at a local gun store 12 years ago, the rifle, a set of RCBS dies, and 200 Norma cases, 800 bucks out the door, took all that to Bagwells, he had me busting his 500 meter ram in less than 20 minutes with a brand new copper penny front sight he just made, yep, the hook was set, and set damn hard!


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We will have to do that.

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Sounds like a plan


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One thing about you gents AO's, if i ever leave the state of Oklahoma, i'll land in the Rapid City/Wall South Dakota area.


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